Trumps Presidency 2025

[chasfh]

14 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

Birds of a feather…

It's almost as though they have a meeting the first thing every morning to figure out the most outrageous, disgusting, corrupt thing they can do that day so they can shock people and laugh about it.

[ewsieg]

1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Kind of apples to oranges in that scenario. The British were already in control and we over threw them.

We have sent Ukraine billions ans billions of cash and weapons already. It is time for Europe to take a bigger role. They want to put boots on the ground then thats on them. Putin would view it as an act of war and we will see you in nuke town.

So Europe should take a bigger role, but if they do what you ask, they are still wrong?

[chasfh]

Good for them. Hit 'em in the wallet, man. 

Red hats will whine that they shouldn't be allowed to do this. Maybe the Musk government will sue them.

[Tigeraholic1]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

You coveniently   left out the part about "with help from France". 
 

Now I'm not advocating "boots on the ground"  in Ukraine. We learned our lesson in Korea and Viet Nam among other places. But you keep spouting Putin's rhetoric 

They sure did help. Your 2nd point I agree 100% but I hate Putin and I also don't want to see our kids die again in Europe. 

[romad1]

12 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Good for them. Hit 'em in the wallet, man. 

Red hats will whine that they shouldn't be allowed to do this. Maybe the Musk government will sue them.

they will identify who donates to NAACP and will punish those people.

[CMRivdogs]

20 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

They sure did help. Your 2nd point I agree 100% but I hate Putin and I also don't want to see our kids die again in Europe. 

So how do you feel about Orbanism. That's probably where we're heading

[Tigeraholic1]

53 minutes ago, chasfh said:

She doesn't say in the video that she has to get a job. She says that she can't work. Are you assuming she's lying?

Yes

[Tigeraholic1]

41 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

So Europe should take a bigger role, but if they do what you ask, they are still wrong?

Yes they should. I really don't care what they think. If they put boots on the ground then they have to deal with the outcome.

[Tigeraholic1]

6 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

So how do you feel about Orbanism. That's probably where we're heading

EU likes it. 🤷‍♂️

Orbanism abandons liberal methods and principles in organizing society. Some sources describe it as a system that is close to autocracy although it is still in line with EU norms. Essentially, it is a philosophy that seeks to maximize the power of the government.

 

 

[chasfh]

7 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Yes

Of course.

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

I get that and agree with that, but the post was asking them to basically explain why diversity is bad, why equity is bad, and why inclusion is bad.

Yes - and they will do it and all you can do is shake your head at the arguments you will hear and you think to yourself, "How do you change a fully formed adult's entire intellectual framework to one that's connected to reality?"

Edited February 17 by gehringer_2

[chasfh]

27 minutes ago, romad1 said:

they will identify who donates to NAACP and will punish those people.

They were always gonna anyway.

[CMRivdogs]

7 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

EU likes it. 🤷‍♂️

Orbanism abandons liberal methods and principles in organizing society. Some sources describe it as a system that is close to autocracy although it is still in line with EU norms. Essentially, it is a philosophy that seeks to maximize the power of the government.

 

 

That's not what I asked. I asked how YOU felt about it. 

[chasfh]

Just now, gehringer_2 said:

and they will do it and all you can do is shake your head at the arguments you will hear and you think to yourself, "How do you change a fully formed adult's entire intellectual framework to one that's connected to reality?"

That's not what I would think to myself. People who support white supremacy/hegemony and don't want certain people to have equal access to resources, or equitable chances to succeed, or be included in the bodies social and politic, specifcally because they are of color, are too far gone to think about changing their minds.

[ewsieg]

34 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I get that and agree with that, but the post was asking them to basically explain why diversity is bad, why equity is bad, and why inclusion is bad.

It's not that DEI is bad, but many on the right feel the left took it too far.  Unfortunately the response is taking it too far as well.

Someone close to me is part of an executive team for a large company.  They recently merged with another company and it wasn't a merge and consolidate situation, they intended on having this other company continue to operate as they always have, just under their umbrella.  They had a large town hall and during it, while another executive is speaking, a DEI director who was not involved happened to walk past.  This executive invited him in, promoted him and his role, and invited folks to reach out to him...then this is where it went sideways.

He decided to share a story that a previous DEI director encouraged him to share (and stated that as he started it).  When DEI was first introduced at their place, he wanted to be an ally, but as a white male wasn't sure how to do that.  He went to that director and asked if he could start a group for white people.  The person telling me this said they had never heard this story before and admitted he squirmed a little in his chair in front of everyone.

The executive speaking went on to say he was told that was not an option, but when asked why he would want a white group, he stated he wanted to be supportive and felt he could get together with other folks that want to be supportive to try and assist.   He was assured that if he wanted to be supportive, he can join any group and he would be welcomed.  He didn't realize that was even an option.  Over the next few years he went to meetings for every DEI organization they had, learning and assisting with all, becoming a valuable asset for that previous DEI director.  She asked him to share that story as she felt it was exactly why people freaked out about DEI and showed there is room for everyone, including white males. 

Well, 12 people went to HR after the townhall, demanding he is fired and everyone on the stage be disciplined for not shutting it down immediately.  Even after an initial investigation where it was discovered that it was 1 manager and his 11 employees and several of those employees stated that they were afraid of being laid off and were told doing this would help protect their jobs, HR chose to pursue.  The president of the org was aware of the story and privately said they didn't think anyone did anything wrong after hearing about it, but made it clear they would not step in.  Additionally it was later learned that HR immediately determined there was no issue but admitted they felt that had to pursue because of the DEI tie in, despite the current DEI director defending what was said on stage.  Eventually he was able to stay, but he had to get on a call with that entire team and issue an apology.  No explanation, no context, nothing, just admit fault and apologize. 

The CEO knew it was wrong, the DEI director knew it was wrong, but no one dared get in the way because of the fear that it would look bad if they refused to punish a DEI complaint.

[ewsieg]

19 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Yes they should. I really don't care what they think. If they put boots on the ground then they have to deal with the outcome.

As they should.  They also have to deal with the outcome if they don't put boots on the ground as well.

I don't want this war and have been critical of the west, especially when I believe there was a really good chance this war could have been over early and an entire generation of Ukraine men could still be alive strengthening the remaining parts of Ukraine. 

But we're here today and Russia is dug in while at the same time the US is stating to the world we're not going to advocate for democracy or simply what is right anymore.  If Europe wants do to that, in their own backyard which Trump always likes to point out as a reason they should be dealing with this and not us, then he can shut his mouth about it.

[LaceyLou]

17 hours ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

**** this absolute nutcase

Wellness farms? Sounds more like reeducation centers. I'm pretty sure that's why he says they'll 'reparent' them.

[Tigeraholic1]

[Tigeraholic1]

23 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

That's not what I asked. I asked how YOU felt about it. 

As you know I am for less liberal views.

[Netnerd]

Ben Garrison? LOL

[CMRivdogs]

32 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

As you know I am for less liberal views.

So you oppose a free press

Freedom to worship whatever dirty you choose

Truth about slavery and African American history

People who don't think like you or have different experiences

I get it

Back to ignore

 

Edited February 17 by CMRivdogs

[Tigerbomb13]

42 minutes ago, Netnerd said:

Ben Garrison? LOL

Next will be a drawing by cat turd 

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

That's not what I would think to myself. People who support white supremacy/hegemony and don't want certain people to have equal access to resources, or equitable chances to succeed, or be included in the bodies social and politic, specifcally because they are of color, are too far gone to think about changing their minds.

I don’t question the existence the malificent, but I’ve also met a lot of what I really would consider ‘salt of the earth’ people who just so misunderstand the world and who have been fed such a stream of nonsense for so much of their lives that they just believe too many things that are not true. 

[chasfh]

4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I don’t question the existence the malificent, but I’ve also met a lot of what I really would consider ‘salt of the earth’ people who just so misunderstand the world and who have been fed such a stream of nonsense for so much of their lives that they just believe too many things that are not true. 

Because it feels good to have your preconceived notions, however arrived at, to be validated and reinforced.

[Tigeraholic1]

44 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

So you oppose a free press

Freedom to worship whatever dirty you choose

Truth about slavery and African American history

People who don't think like you or have different experiences

I get it

Back to ignore

 

Do you agree with the Germans. Free speech will get you fined or arrested? Sounds like you would agree with this.