Trumps Presidency 2025

[CMRivdogs]

34 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Shameful behavior

 

[Motown Bombers]

18 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

You are correct on this about MAGA's, but a very large number of people that voted for Trump didn't think he won in 2020 and don't believe illegals were all violent criminals.

What that large group were, were folks that were lied to by the left regarding 50 intelligence officers that said it was Russian disinformation, that by simply asking if it could have been a lab leak they were mocked, that inflation wasn't an issue, and despite the lack of interviews and press briefings from Biden and videos of him walking around mindlessly umpteen times that he was not in decline, but rather sharper then ever (Joe Tapper is coming out with a book about his decline now after spending the last 4 years on CNN fighting against anyone that even worried about a decline, **** you Tapper).  They saw democratic mayors in northern states freak out when the southern states decided to burden them with the problems faced by a large influx of illegals that they have had to endure the entire time.

You didn't accept any of them, you mocked them.  The reaction of large city mayors on immigration was the most obvious 'show your ass' moment by your party in recent memory and instead of just publicly agreeing that maybe unfettered unorganized mass migration by illegals into this country may not be the best thing, publicly the party chose to demonize those complaining about it as racists.  Even as Biden took actual steps to deal with it. 

Still I wish that large group would have looked deeper into what a Trump 2.0 presidency would be like and voted for Harris.  I don't see how you win over the electorate (consistently at least) without being more accepting.  But I guess continue to mock, doesn't seem to be working right now, but who knows, maybe it will prevent a Trump 3rd term.

But it hasn't been proven to be a lab leak. Your obsession with a lab leak is fascinating. 

No one said inflation wasn't an issue. They were pointing out inflation was a global issue, and the US was the best in the world at controlling it. 

Most videos of Biden were edited. No one can actually pinpoint something where Biden's cognitive ability effected him as president. Biden continued to successfully get things done and hold the respect of the world until the end. Guess he needed to bellow people were eating dogs and cats. 

[Motown Bombers]

Didn’t even know Little Marco was there. 

 

[mtutiger]

Just my two cents, but I really think the Dems need to lean in on his embarrassing treatment if Ukraine a lot harder. 

JB Pritzker, who governs a state with late populations of Ukrainian and Polish Americans, seems like a good candidate to speak up on this.

[Motown Bombers]

2 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Just my two cents, but I really think the Dems need to lean in on his embarrassing treatment if Ukraine a lot harder. 

JB Pritzker, who governs a state with late populations of Ukrainian and Polish Americans, seems like a good candidate to speak up on this.

I’m calling John James. MI-10 has the largest Ukrainian population in Michigan. My neighbors are Ukrainian. 

[Tigerbomb13]

 

[ewsieg]

14 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

But it hasn't been proven to be a lab leak. Your obsession with a lab leak is fascinating. 

No one said inflation wasn't an issue. They were pointing out inflation was a global issue, and the US was the best in the world at controlling it. 

Most videos of Biden were edited. No one can actually pinpoint something where Biden's cognitive ability effected him as president. Biden continued to successfully get things done and hold the respect of the world until the end. Guess he needed to bellow people were eating dogs and cats. 

I'm not looking to debate everything related to these things, i'm pointing out some of the high profile news items from the last several years which most people were aware of and saw a radical change in how they were covered from the start to now.  Lab leak was conspiracy theory, thinking Biden might be too old, how dare you say that!  Inflation, what inflation?  Oh that inflation.... well it's not that bad, ok, it's bad, but we're the best at handling it....   For low volume news consumers they were dealing with inflation, they were shocked when lab leak was determined to be a possibility.  These weren't your MAGA voters, but they did vote for Trump in part because of this stuff.

[Motown Bombers]

Just now, ewsieg said:

I'm not looking to debate everything related to these things, i'm pointing out some of the high profile news items from the last several years which most people were aware of and saw a radical change in how they were covered from the start to now.  Lab leak was conspiracy theory, thinking Biden might be too old, how dare you say that!  Inflation, what inflation?  Oh that inflation.... well it's not that bad, ok, it's bad, but we're the best at handling it....   For low volume news consumers they were dealing with inflation, they were shocked when lab leak was determined to be a possibility.  These weren't your MAGA voters, but they did vote for Trump in part because of this stuff.

I'm not sure what you wanted Dems to do? Harris actually provided plans to reduce inflation. Trump literally promised to make inflation worse. Trump is only 3 years younger than Biden and not nearly as competent. 

[CMRivdogs]

Maybe somebody should ask Prime Minister (in name only) Musk the same question. T-Shirt and cap in cabinet meeting (where he should not have been)

I never want to hear a so called Republican mention Obama's tan suit ever again

[Motown Bombers]

Zelenskyy meeting with the cognitively impaired Biden. 

 

[CMRivdogs]

It's official. The U-S no longer has any allies after today's shameful performance with Zelensky. And I wouldn't count on Russia, Vlad will turn on a dime when he gets a chance.

We are cooked.

 

[Tigerbomb13]

Partially. Rove sounds more upset that it was televised and not that it happened. It’s bad either way. 

[ewsieg]

26 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I'm not sure what you wanted Dems to do? Harris actually provided plans to reduce inflation. Trump literally promised to make inflation worse. Trump is only 3 years younger than Biden and not nearly as competent. 

For low volume news consumers, they only heard 107 days worth of her saying she would reduce inflation due to the fact that the president we were told was sharper than ever showed he was no longer sharp one of the few times his people allowed him to do more then a 1-2 minute script in front of a camera.  Plus she was part of the same administration that said there was no inflation, so maybe they weren't too keen on believing her.  As for Trump providing details on his plans which would increase inflation, us avid news consumers on this forum saw that, but the low volume folks, they just heard him blame Biden and say he would fix it.  Again, my point is not everyone consumes the news like we do and unfortunately those that don't consume the news can make choices in line with people that are ape**** crazy (MAGA), but it doesn't mean they are the same nor should be treated the same.  I'm just advocating for not writing those voters off and not trying to reach out to them.

[CMRivdogs]

We are all just prisoners  here, of our own device

 

Edited 2 hours ago by CMRivdogs

[Motown Bombers]

5 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

For low volume news consumers, they only heard 107 days worth of her saying she would reduce inflation due to the fact that the president we were told was sharper than ever showed he was no longer sharp one of the few times his people allowed him to do more then a 1-2 minute script in front of a camera.  Plus she was part of the same administration that said there was no inflation, so maybe they weren't too keen on believing her.  As for Trump providing details on his plans which would increase inflation, us avid news consumers on this forum saw that, but the low volume folks, they just heard him blame Biden and say he would fix it.  Again, my point is not everyone consumes the news like we do and unfortunately those that don't consume the news can make choices in line with people that are ape**** crazy (MAGA), but it doesn't mean they are the same nor should be treated the same.  I'm just advocating for not writing those voters off and not trying to reach out to them.

She said she was going to combat inflation by targeting companies who were price gouging, building 3 million homes, providing down payment assistance, and expanding Medicaid to help the sandwich generation. She literally never said any of that bull****. That's just straight up lies. 

[mtutiger]

Not the most important part of the exchange, but a media mouthpiece of the "Party of the Workin' Man"(c) shaming Zelensky for not wearing a suit is... something else.

[Motown Bombers]

This was basically the Zelenskyy phone call but in person and broadcast live. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Motown Bombers

[mtutiger]

28 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

Partially. Rove sounds more upset that it was televised and not that it happened. It’s bad either way. 

Rove is a hack, he's obviously gonna tow the party line... but his instincts about how stuff will play outside of MAGAland are usually pretty sound, so it's notable.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

When even the state propaganda at Fox is criticizing the situation you know it is bad. Today was about as pathetic and unpresidential display as Donald Trump as ever had.

[mtutiger]

 

[Tiger337]

2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

 

2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Probably about a third of the country will love this.  It's why they voted for him three times.    

[Motown Bombers]

I'm guessing the Hamasholes aren't going to start calling Trump Genocide Don for supporting Russia attacking Ukraine? 

[chasfh]

5 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

I mean, that's exactly what happened. This woman from Baldwin voted for Biden in 2020 and then switched to Trump because he lied about free IVF. 

Believe desperate for something like having a baby will gravitate toward something like the sweet lie of free IVF. Even if they were to step back and analyze it and conclude it's probably not true, they don't want to miss out if it is. They are practically hoping against hope.

[chasfh]

4 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

It tells me AOC is not the example for Dems. She came into congress throwing bombs, attacked Biden for three years, voted against good legislation because it wasn't perfect, and then finally came around after it was too late when she realized she needs to build coalitions. 

Like so many young people in so many professions before her.

[chasfh]

4 hours ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

Exhibit #738389292 that we live in the dumbest timeline 

Honestly, this is among the lowest of hanging fruit for the red hats.