Trumps Presidency 2025

[mtutiger]

4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I guess all those foolish investors just don't understand what a boon those tariffs will be to the Auto industry.

S&P is net down since before the election. Even the oligarch's aren't going to like that.

Not just the auto industry, who will take it harder than anyone, but retail in general are deeply deeply exposed to risk here.

[Motown Bombers]

The thing is, Trump is doing exactly what he said he would do but millions of people were upset over other people's genitalia. 

[ewsieg]

I feel like I seek out and consume more news than most.  I also think most of you on this board are above average consumers as well.  So with that, can anyone tell me exactly what Canada and Mexico were supposed to do in order to avoid the Tariffs.  I understand that he feels the USMCA is a stupid deal and only a stupid person would sign it, and I agree with the latter portion, but I have not heard any specifics on what he was hoping to accomplish by threatening tariffs. 

[romad1]

1 minute ago, ewsieg said:

I feel like I seek out and consume more news than most.  I also think most of you on this board are above average consumers as well.  So with that, can anyone tell me exactly what Canada and Mexico were supposed to do in order to avoid the Tariffs.  I understand that he feels the USMCA is a stupid deal and only a stupid person would sign it, and I agree with the latter portion, but I have not heard any specifics on what he was hoping to accomplish by threatening tariffs. 

grovel.  they were supposed to grovel and supplicate. 

[Tigerbomb13]

4 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

I feel like I seek out and consume more news than most.  I also think most of you on this board are above average consumers as well.  So with that, can anyone tell me exactly what Canada and Mexico were supposed to do in order to avoid the Tariffs.  I understand that he feels the USMCA is a stupid deal and only a stupid person would sign it, and I agree with the latter portion, but I have not heard any specifics on what he was hoping to accomplish by threatening tariffs. 

He says he wants those jobs moved to America, but he’s either too dumb to realize you can’t just wave a wand and have that done, or he knows this and just feels like he’s a tough guy for doing so. At the expense of the American people that are going to suffer greatly. 

[Motown Bombers]

And, what was the point of delaying the tariffs a month? 

[gehringer_2]

36 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

I feel like I seek out and consume more news than most.  I also think most of you on this board are above average consumers as well.  So with that, can anyone tell me exactly what Canada and Mexico were supposed to do in order to avoid the Tariffs.  I understand that he feels the USMCA is a stupid deal and only a stupid person would sign it, and I agree with the latter portion, but I have not heard any specifics on what he was hoping to accomplish by threatening tariffs. 

Aside from the pure ego thing, which is probably at least 50% of everything he does, to the degree he actually has any thoughts on political economy, he has a long standing belief that US manufacturing has collapsed because of 'unfair trade deals', instead of the real reason, which is the US government's failure to provide a positive manufacturing environment in its now 4 decade long windmill tilt to become a "knowledge and finance" based economy.

Edited Tuesday at 04:19 PM by gehringer_2

[ben9753]

Just now, Motown Bombers said:

And, what was the point of delaying the tariffs a month? 

I think he wanted to get his cabinet confirmed first. Prove to any potential GOP dissenters that he can do whatever he wants and no one should even try to lift a finger to stop him.

[romad1]

this is fun

Britain and Canada our two closest allies being paranoid about the United States under Trump. 

[mtutiger]

The Trump tax will soon becoming to Michigander's electrical bills

[ben9753]

Maybe we can get our electricity from Russia. I’m sure uncle Vlad will cut us a deal. 

[Motown Bombers]

12 minutes ago, romad1 said:

this is fun

Britain and Canada our two closest allies being paranoid about the United States under Trump. 

Trump is literally going to make Canada a nuclear state. 

[romad1]

7 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Trump is literally going to make Canada a nuclear state. 

To protect Canada from the Kristi Noems

[ewsieg]

17 minutes ago, romad1 said:

grovel.  they were supposed to grovel and supplicate. 

I certainly expect that's what he wanted, but generally Trump would say something stupid but his admin would then follow up with some specifics.  In this case, I've seen Canada/Mexico response that this wouldn't be good, but nothing even from them on what they were asked to do. 

I specifically just searched and see that several days ago, Mexico offered up a proposal to put a tariff on Chinese goods and for Canada to follow suit.  Bessent said it would be a 'nice gesture' but no other details.  So Trump is essentially making Mexico and Canada guess on what they can do, rather then the US sitting down to explain their concerns?!?!? 

I know the daily crap Trump does is news worthy, but the full story on this needs to be pushed by the media so everyone knows just how stupid this action is, so when the economic pain hits, the right people are blamed.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

38 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

The thing is, Trump is doing exactly what he said he would do but millions of people were upset over other people's genitalia. 

It's TDS alright, Trans Derangement Syndrome. That's what people like our resident MAGA suffer from. They can't stop talking about trans people and other people's private parts and genitalia.

[gehringer_2]

well I'll give Trump this, he wanted interest rates to come down and the recession he is engineering will certainly bring them down.

[romad1]

 

[Hongbit]

28 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

The Trump tax will soon becoming to Michigander's electrical bills

Anyone have an idea on how reliant DTE is on energy from Ontario?

[Tigermojo]

6 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

I certainly expect that's what he wanted, but generally Trump would say something stupid but his admin would then follow up with some specifics.  In this case, I've seen Canada/Mexico response that this wouldn't be good, but nothing even from them on what they were asked to do. 

I specifically just searched and see that several days ago, Mexico offered up a proposal to put a tariff on Chinese goods and for Canada to follow suit.  Bessent said it would be a 'nice gesture' but no other details.  So Trump is essentially making Mexico and Canada guess on what they can do, rather then the US sitting down to explain their concerns?!?!? 

I know the daily crap Trump does is news worthy, but the full story on this needs to be pushed by the media so everyone knows just how stupid this action is, so when the economic pain hits, the right people are blamed.

Concepts of a plan to put money in his pocket and get revenge on everyone.

[romad1]

1 minute ago, Hongbit said:

Anyone have an idea on how reliant DTE is on energy from Ontario?

I'm anticipating they pass all that onto you (and me, because I pay my brother's power bills). 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

6 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

well I'll give Trump this, he wanted interest rates to come down and the recession he is engineering will certainly bring them down.

I disagree. I think we're headed for 1970s style stagflation potentially. A situation where Trumpflation and higher prices are created because of his tariffs, trade wars with other trading partners, and economy volatility. Then, intermixed with that, you will have a recession because of the economic pressures put on businesses by the Trumpflation, trade wars, and overall day-to-day volatility and uncertainty of his policies. 

Edited Tuesday at 04:25 PM by Mr.TaterSalad

[Hongbit]

Just now, romad1 said:

I'm anticipating they pass all that onto you (and me, because I pay my brother's power bills). 

If this were a football game. ESPN would have a 100% probability on it.

[mtutiger]

44 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

I feel like I seek out and consume more news than most.  I also think most of you on this board are above average consumers as well.  So with that, can anyone tell me exactly what Canada and Mexico were supposed to do in order to avoid the Tariffs.  I understand that he feels the USMCA is a stupid deal and only a stupid person would sign it, and I agree with the latter portion, but I have not heard any specifics on what he was hoping to accomplish by threatening tariffs. 

I don't think there's anything they could have said or done to stop this.... in part, Trump was boxed in by his previous posture on tariffs. You cannot keep making these threats over and over and over again and come out looking strong if you never eventually follow through on them. But also there was nothing they could offer him because the threats, in and of themselves, are all nonsensical and aren't really tied to any actual concrete outcomes. The man just wants to do tariffs and think's they're great for all of us.... he's high on his own supply.

[ewsieg]

24 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Trump is literally going to make Canada a nuclear state. 

I'm not very political on Facebook, but I just posted a few days ago that if you are a country that doesn't have nuclear weapons, but have any fear whatsoever from your neighbors, you were be derelict in your duty not to pursue them now.  Canada, South Korea, Taiwan, Baltic States, Poland... so on and so forth.

[mtutiger]

I understand Justin... No need to apologize 

Edited Tuesday at 04:33 PM by mtutiger