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15 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

I heard something about a vaccine for the egg laying hens? What I don't understand is chicken meat, it doesn't seem to have gone up much. It seems like it would go up the same % as eggs. Boneless skinless chicken breasts are on sale for around $2.69 a pound. About the same as last year.

In general chickens for eggs and chickens for the pot aren't the birds. The flu is a much bigger problem for laying hens  - I would imagine at least one factor would be that they generally live in closer quarters where contagion is worse (thus the drive for cage rules).

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The biggest part is how long birds are kept alive.

Layers can live up to two years and broilers (meat birds) are slaughtered around the 7-week mark.  So broilers do not have as much time to catch the virus.  That also means layers are older and weaker, which could make it easier to catch the virus.

You also have to consider how fast a farm can get back up and running after destroying their flock.  Like I said, in 7 weeks, a broiler can be butchered.  Layers can take up to 20 weeks to start producing eggs.  So almost 3x as long to recover for egg producing farms vs meat farms. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

The biggest part is how long birds are kept alive.

Layers can live up to two years and broilers (meat birds) are slaughtered around the 7-week mark.  So broilers do not have as much time to catch the virus.  That also means layers are older and weaker, which could make it easier to catch the virus.

You also have to consider how fast a farm can get back up and running after destroying their flock.  Like I said, in 7 weeks, a broiler can be butchered.  Layers can take up to 20 weeks to start producing eggs.  So almost 3x as long to recover for egg producing farms vs meat farms. 

 

Spot on... 

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1 minute ago, Deleterious said:

The biggest part is how long birds are kept alive.

Layers can live up to two years and broilers (meat birds) are slaughtered around the 7-week mark.  So broilers do not have as much time to catch the virus.  That also means layers are older and weaker, which could make it easier to catch the virus.

You also have to consider how fast a farm can get back up and running after destroying their flock.  Like I said, in 7 weeks, a broiler can be butchered.  Layers can take up to 20 weeks to start producing eggs.  So almost 3x as long to recover for egg producing farms vs meat farms. 

 

I didn't know that. 20 weeks is a pretty long time if a farm has to kill off their flock. It seems like the bigger farms would have to invest quite a bit. And if the flu is still around, I wonder it they would consider replacing them or not.

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17 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

I didn't know that. 20 weeks is a pretty long time if a farm has to kill off their flock. It seems like the bigger farms would have to invest quite a bit. And if the flu is still around, I wonder it they would consider replacing them or not.

Farming is a funny business. Since prices can respond so elastically, you can end up with a fair profit even when you lose a lot of your 'crop' (whatever it is) because if losses are wide spread (as they are in this case) prices rise a lot (which they have) which makes it profitable to stay in the game even with reduced production capacity.

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29 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

lol

Honestly, this might be the only coherent reasoning for tariffs I've heard.  I'm not saying I agree with everything, but this argument is in part why I wasn't that critical of Trump's first tariff set, which Biden continued as well. 

But what Collins should have stressed from his comment wasn't that it's a tax, folks that pay any attention already know that.  Rather, she should have pointed out the vast difference in how Trump implemented tariffs in his first term, which he says were wildly successful and the erratic nation of these today.

 

And what Trump is doing now compared to what he did his first term

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So, watched the movie Anthropoid tonight.  Its about the Czech resistance movement's assassination of Reinhard Heydrich.  Very moving.  Hard not to see the reprisals the Nazis implemented and compare to the Trump crew and see very little difference in outlook.  Bongino or Patel or Hegseth seem like they could order that sort of thing without compunction.  

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23 minutes ago, pfife said:

E, how do tarriffs allow for open markets?  That seems contradictory to me.    

Yeah that's what elicited the "lol" to me.

Whatever the wisdom of a tariff might be in any given situation, it's by definition not an "open market" action

Posted
4 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

Have they come down recently? Come down significantly, like Trump said today? A 10% increase in a week here.

No. They’ve been steadily rising. But I didn’t shop for any since Monday.

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