Trumps Presidency 2025

[mtutiger]

I don't think the headlines about the Department of Education, which were all over the news yesterday and on social media, were good ones. And I think they likely broke through

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[Motown Bombers]

  On 3/21/2025 at 1:42 AM, mtutiger said:

This is all correct, but I still think we need to consider the context in that people were sour about inflation and the economy, and it remains the biggest reason he won. And he's ****ing up daily on that front.

It's important that Dems learn about what happened in 2024, but after that last eight years, I sometimes worry that we collectively spend way too much time analyzing the last battle versus preparing for the next one. 

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I don't think Dems need to change much. In every swing state that Trump won except Pennsylvania, Dems won the down ballot races. Dems overperformed in the midterms and in special elections. Down ballot Dems overperformed down ballot in red states like Brown and Tester. Trump is a cult. No one has proven to be able to replace Trump. I'm not sure what happens when Trump is gone. My thought is there will be many right wingers fighting with each other for a piece of the biggest grift. 

[chasfh]

  On 3/21/2025 at 12:37 PM, Motown Bombers said:

I don't think Dems need to change much. In every swing state that Trump won except Pennsylvania, Dems won the down ballot races. Dems overperformed in the midterms and in special elections. Down ballot Dems overperformed down ballot in red states like Brown and Tester. Trump is a cult. No one has proven to be able to replace Trump. I'm not sure what happens when Trump is gone. My thought is there will be many right wingers fighting with each other for a piece of the biggest grift. 

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I had thought the same thing on a simplified basis, although as I think more about it, I gotta wonder how much down-ballot success is due to extreme gerrymandering than it is to their general message ex-top of ticket. The Dems did pick up three seats, but those were vacancies. The Republicans did not lose a single contestable House seat out of the 220 they held, and they actually picked up a couple Senate seats. So I'm not sure how much comfort I can take from the down-ballot argument anymore.

[Motown Bombers]

  On 3/21/2025 at 1:28 PM, chasfh said:

I had thought the same thing on a simplified basis, although as I think more about it, I gotta wonder how much down-ballot success is due to extreme gerrymandering than it is to their general message ex-top of ticket. The Dems did pick up three seats, but those were vacancies. The Republicans did not lose a single contestable House seat out of the 220 they held, and they actually picked up a couple Senate seats. So I'm not sure how much comfort I can take from the down-ballot argument anymore.

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They picked up senate seats in Ohio and Montana which were always going to be red states. Testes and Brown way outperformed the top of the ticket. I think if Brown runs again in 2026 to backfill JD Vance's seat, he can win. I was a little surprised Casey lost Pennsylvania, but Dems won statewide senate races in MI, WI, AZ, and NV and Dems won all the statewide races in North Carolina. They all ran against Trump imitations. No one has been able to duplicate his success. 

[Motown Bombers]

I forgot West Virginia, but we all knew Dems were cooked there. 

[CMRivdogs]

You needn to throw in Social Security among what will eventually work against him. The mere fact that they have limited access to customer service, which was bad to begin with, forcing seniors and their caretakers to spend hours to get simple questions answered. Closing local offices and forcing folks to drive an hour or more to actually talk to a person will also not help the numbers among seniors.

Hopefully we'll see a major backlash in 2026 

[LaceyLou]

  On 3/21/2025 at 12:37 PM, Motown Bombers said:

I don't think Dems need to change much. In every swing state that Trump won except Pennsylvania, Dems won the down ballot races. Dems overperformed in the midterms and in special elections. Down ballot Dems overperformed down ballot in red states like Brown and Tester. Trump is a cult. No one has proven to be able to replace Trump. I'm not sure what happens when Trump is gone. My thought is there will be many right wingers fighting with each other for a piece of the biggest grift. 

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While I haven't seen this post in a while, I remember MAGAts used to post something that indicated they wanted a dynasty of Trumps-including Barron once he's old enough. 

I think they really do want a royal family-even though I still can't believe anybody would look at members of that family and say "yeah, that's royalty all right!"

[Motown Bombers]

 

[oblong]

I bet Florida loves that.

[Tiger337]

  On 3/21/2025 at 3:46 PM, LaceyLou said:

While I haven't seen this post in a while, I remember MAGAts used to post something that indicated they wanted a dynasty of Trumps-including Barron once he's old enough. 

I think they really do want a royal family-even though I still can't believe anybody would look at members of that family and say "yeah, that's royalty all right!"

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More like the roil family.  

 

[CMRivdogs]

Heading out tomorrow to catch a huge boat to Aruba and nearby islands. Hopefully I’ll make it back thru customs next weekend on my return.

If not Godspeed 

[RatkoVarda]

  On 3/21/2025 at 5:02 PM, CMRivdogs said:

Heading out tomorrow to catch a huge boat to Aruba and nearby islands. Hopefully I’ll make it back thru customs next weekend on my return.

If not Godspeed 

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if you're a white guy - just don't get a deep tan and you'll be OK

[Tiger337]

  On 3/21/2025 at 5:08 PM, RatkoVarda said:

if you're a white guy - just don't get a deep tan and you'll be OK

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As a dark skinned Greek who has been mistaken for an arab on more than one occasion, I am always a bit wary in travelling.  Now, it will be worse.  

[Motown Bombers]

 

[romad1]

  On 3/21/2025 at 6:26 PM, Motown Bombers said:

 

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That's not completely out of touch with reality.  

Cthulu take the wheel. 

[gehringer_2]

  On 3/21/2025 at 2:16 PM, CMRivdogs said:

You needn to throw in Social Security among what will eventually work against him. The mere fact that they have limited access to customer service, which was bad to begin with, forcing seniors and their caretakers to spend hours to get simple questions answered. Closing local offices and forcing folks to drive an hour or more to actually talk to a person will also not help the numbers among seniors.

Hopefully we'll see a major backlash in 2026 

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I don't get this one - seems like daylight madness, especially given that it's one of Trump's best demographics.

[Motown Bombers]

  On 3/21/2025 at 6:47 PM, gehringer_2 said:

I don't get this one - seems like daylight madness, especially given that it's one of Trump's best demographics.

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Trump was only +1 with 65 and over. His best age group is Gen X and younger boomers. The people who are about 10 years away from social security are his biggest supporters. After paying into it all their lives, it will be gone. 

[chasfh]

  On 3/21/2025 at 3:46 PM, LaceyLou said:

While I haven't seen this post in a while, I remember MAGAts used to post something that indicated they wanted a dynasty of Trumps-including Barron once he's old enough. 

I think they really do want a royal family-even though I still can't believe anybody would look at members of that family and say "yeah, that's royalty all right!"

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I really do think it’s the result of a thorough brainwashing by that whole right wing/pro-Kremlin media system. We can all think of examples of people we’ve known through the years who were always conservative but who have completely gone over the moon for Trump. What that suggests to me is that their conservatism was entirely personality-driven, and not at all ideological.

[smr-nj]

  On 3/21/2025 at 6:26 PM, Motown Bombers said:

 

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What the actual F ? 😡.  
Unbelievable, the elitism.

[oblong]

  On 3/21/2025 at 7:53 PM, chasfh said:

I really do think it’s the result of a thorough brainwashing by that whole right wing/pro-Kremlin media system. We can all think of examples of people we’ve known through the years who were always conservative but who have completely gone over the moon for Trump. What that suggests to me is that their conservatism was entirely personality-driven, and not at all ideological.

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It’s about who they are against.  A variation of “own the libs”.  They will support anybody who is the enemy of their enemy.  They hate liberals more than they love people or Jesus.  

[Tiger337]

I think there is a large group of people that think conservativism is manly and tough and it doesn't go much beyond that for them.  

[1776]

  On 3/21/2025 at 5:02 PM, CMRivdogs said:

Heading out tomorrow to catch a huge boat to Aruba and nearby islands. Hopefully I’ll make it back thru customs next weekend on my return.

If not Godspeed 

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Enjoy your trip young man and be safe!

[Tiger337]

Trump has taken over Columbia University.  He was going to take away 400 million in funding if they did not agree to letting The Party dictate not only discipline, but also curriculum and admissions. They apparently caved.  Scary stuff.   

https://www.publicnotice.co/p/trump-columbia-univeristy-letter-takeover

Not surprisingly, this had nothing to do with anti-semitism.  It is a personal vendetta Trump has against Columbia:

 

Edited March 22 by Tiger337

[gehringer_2]

It's a lot easier to talk about freedom not being free when it's a matter of sending someone else's kids to war, instead of biting the bullet to resize your institution and get off the federal trough.....

[Sports_Freak]

Very well said about our northern neighbors;