Trumps Presidency 2025

[romad1]

4 minutes ago, pfife said:

I hereby apologize to Bill Kristol for all of the mean stuff i said since 2005 about him in this forum

Mf making me check my antifa card

He's a good listen on a monday Bulwark pod.  He's agitated for sure. 

[romad1]

https://bsky.app/profile/bakerdphd.bsky.social/post/3ln2gzr5r5c2a

 

[LaceyLou]

On 4/15/2025 at 3:25 PM, antrat said:

I just re-read In the Garden of Beasts by Erik Larson. A non-fiction book about the American ambassador and his family living in Germany during the rise of Hitler.

The parallels to what is happening here in America at this moment are astounding. How regular, ordinary people became enraptured by a beast and all that lead to.

Scary times. I never thought I would live to see this in America.

I read that recently, too. Great book that I wished was fiction.

[CMRivdogs]

39 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

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So tired of "strongman" game playing

 

[LaceyLou]

11 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

So tired of "strongman" game playing

 

Of course Bukele wants to keep him. He's getting paid to keep him. Keeping all of these prisoners is most likely expensive and El Salvador is a poor country-my guess is it's getting too costly to keep the prisons going without this added income.

[Edman85]

What's crazy about the last few months...

Some people thought I was exaggerating how bad this was going to be in November. I underestimated to a huge degree the amount of harm that would be done.

[LaceyLou]

5 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

What's crazy about the last few months...

Some people thought I was exaggerating how bad this was going to be in November. I underestimated to a huge degree the amount of harm that would be done.

And I naively thought that at least some of his biggest supporters didn't really vote for a king, but it turns out I was wrong.

And you know what? People *still* think I'm overreacting about the US entering Handmaiden territory.

[Tiger337]

2 minutes ago, LaceyLou said:

And I naively thought that at least some of his biggest supporters didn't really vote for a king, but it turns out I was wrong.

And you know what? People *still* think I'm overreacting about the US entering Handmaiden territory.

In my small sample size, his biggest supporters still love him. They love what he's doing with immigrants and they expect the tariffs to fix the econony.   He is saving America!  The moderate Republicans (voted for Haley and then Trump) don't like him, but think the liberals are overreacting.  They are not regretting voting against Harris.  I think i's going to take a fairly long-term economic down-term to change any minds.  

[mtutiger]

46 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

What's crazy about the last few months...

Some people thought I was exaggerating how bad this was going to be in November. I underestimated to a huge degree the amount of harm that would be done.

The whole DOGE thing and involvement of Musk was a curveball, but a lot of this really tied back to stuff he said on the campaign trail.... and even just taking myself back to fall of last year, it was notable how many times I was hearing things like "he won't do all that stuff, he's just campaigning" when it came to things like tariffs, Ukraine, etc.

Well, he's doing these things and doing them faster than expected.... I genuinely do believe there is regret out there to some degree (and have seen it personally from a few people in my life), but what frustrates me is that none of it should have been surprising. He said he was going to do a lot of this stuff.

[mtutiger]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

So tired of "strongman" game playing

 

Setting aside Bukele being an absolute ghoul, have to think that the fact that Van Hollen was able to meet with him and that Bukele allowed it says something about how this story is being internalized within the United States and that the narrative has been spinning out of control for the administration.

[pfife]

This was a Day 1 promise.

 

[pfife]

Folks bragged about voting for that.

[oblong]

Did he post a Bible verse too?

[chasfh]

14 hours ago, smr-nj said:

CMRivdogs made note of this yesterday. Isn’t it ridiculous? Can’t even give regular citizens a little bit of a break… have to make sure companies can make $$ even off the simplest tax return.

 

We are all nothing more than marks.

[chasfh]

10 hours ago, Edman85 said:

What's crazy about the last few months...

Some people thought I was exaggerating how bad this was going to be in November. I underestimated to a huge degree the amount of harm that would be done.

I was simply nine years too early with my predictions of this.

[Tiger337]

17 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I was simply nine years too early with my predictions of this.

I hated Trump 45 years ago.  😄

Edited yesterday at 01:02 PM by Tiger337

[Tigerbomb13]

1 hour ago, pfife said:

This was a Day 1 promise.

 

“I’ll end this war on day one”.

end it as in letting Russia just take it over is what he really meant. 

[chasfh]

18 hours ago, Archie said:

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/04/16/kilmar-abrego-garcia-ms-13-gang-member-history-violence

 

This is just one source.  Search the internet and you will find many more things about this guy.  Why don’t you prove he is a law abiding citizen that has never been in trouble and deserves to stay in the US as an illegal alien.  Whatcha got?  It really doesn’t matter because no matter what proof I give you it won’t be accepted because it doesn’t fit your narrative.  No wonder this it the ultra liberal loon funhouse because you can’t have civilized discussion with people that don’t agree with you. 

I'm making no claims about the guy. You are. That's why you have to provide evidence and I don't have to provide a thing.

Since DHS is a party with interest in the dispute, citing them as a source falls out of bounds. They are not providing evidence—they are making claims. (1) is an unsupported claim; (5) is also an unsupported claim; (6) does not confirm he is a terrorist or criminal (and simply being undocumented is not in itself a crime); (7) is an unsupported claim; (8) is not relevant to any activities that are claimed he is being detained for. These are all easily dismissable.

(2-4) would be more interesting if they related to a crime committed recently. But the write-up is from 2019, during Trump's first term when his DHS could have dealt with Garcia at the time. But they didn't, meaning there must not have been enough evidence to move forward on the guy. Also, the document does not specify any criminal action the guy might have been involved in at the time, only a lot of circumstantial claims meant to imply criminality. Not for nothing, any provenance to the document was removed before being posted on the web page, meaning, we don't know where it's from and who put it together. So it's a lot of smoke from more or less an anonymous source.

Maybe you think the idea of "smoke equals fire" should lead to forfeiture of due process, as was the case here, to which I would reply, that's never been how justice in the United States rolls.

Edited yesterday at 01:28 PM by chasfh

[chasfh]

31 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I hated Trump 45 years ago.  😄

You beat me by some six or eight years. I wasn't aware of him until Spy Magazine.

[Tiger337]

3 minutes ago, chasfh said:

You beat me by some six or eight years. I wasn't aware of him until Spy Magazine.

I remember him from the USFL which actually started 42 years ago (not 45).  I saw him in an interview and my very sensitive douchebag meter went off the charts immediately! 

[Motown Bombers]

You have to admit, Trump was pretty good at messaging to Hispanics. He said they were all murderers and rapist from a floating island of garbage who are poisoning the blood of Americans and they are eating all the dogs and cats and must be deported immediately. How would you not vote for that?

[pfife]

39 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

“I’ll end this war on day one”.

end it as in letting Russia just take it over is what he really meant. 

Couldnt even do that.  Hes a failure.

[ewsieg]

12 hours ago, pfife said:

I hereby apologize to Bill Kristol for all of the mean stuff i said since 2005 about him in this forum

Mf making me check my antifa card

To be fair to you, he's not the same Bill Kristol he was in 2005.  I feel like I followed his path closely where we don't want to say we've changed, we want to say the GOP changed and as a result, we were left behind.  Truthfully though, we changed.  Maybe no change on racial issues, but more empathetic.  Definitely changed on social issues or at least how we value them.  I can say for myself I felt the government wasn't needed for social change, the people would do that on their own and bake in any changes they made into government, so I didn't care about government involvement up front.  Now with the attacks from the government on social issues, I see the importance I didn't recognize before.  Can't say if it's the exact reasoning for Kristol, but sounds like it to me.  Even some change on economic issues, he definitely doesn't sound like your traditional conservative when he refers to the tech bros as oligarchs.  

[CMRivdogs]

One of my main arguments to Trumpers. Cheer the guys who received pardons for committing crimes against the government (breaking and entering, assault) and went thru the judicial process, yet a guy who was accused but never charged or had a trial is guilty because he's from a different country.  They're all hypocrites and liars.

 

 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

3 hours ago, pfife said:

Folks bragged about voting for that.

The Great Negotiator was going to have the war over in a day, 24 hours. The Art of the Fold strikes again.