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Deleterious
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He is distracting the nation as he gets ready to sneak the valuables out the back door.

oblong
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If you are ready to move on from that then don't claim to love your country because it was an attack on the country.    

Tiger337
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The court system was way to nice to him.  The whiny rich boy cry baby criminal deserved a much worse fate, but the system is designed to protect the wealthy and powerful.  In fact, the whole country i

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gehringer_2 Grand Master

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15 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Trump ran on pardoning J6'ers and was elected.

Indeed. What does it say about his voters? That their panic about a 4th decimal place proportion of the population not living out conventional gender roles, or that a guy fixing their roof speaks Spanish, is so great that they throw away any consideration of law and orderly political process? So that's what they see in the mirror?

What we have is a nation that has been telling itself false stories for so long they've become reality for enough people to elect a charlatan like Trump. Twice.

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mtutiger Grand Master

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4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Indeed. What does it say about his voters? That their panic about a 4th decimal place proportion of the population not living out conventional gender roles, or that a guy fixing their roof speaks Spanish, is so great that they throw away any consideration of law and orderly political process? So that's what they see in the mirror?

What we have is a nation that has been telling itself false stories for so long they've become reality for enough people to elect a charlatan like Trump. Twice.

There's also the fact that polling (including the CBS YouGov poll that Holic was extolling on Sunday) shows that a majority of voters were not supportive of pardoning J6 criminals.

I feel like I have to say it again and again and again, but people voted for him in-spite of these views, not because of them. 

MAGA doesn't get it

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8 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

MAGA doesn't get it

People seem desperate for simple solutions, maybe the prevalence of short attention span media conditions them that way. And what's funny is that if you ask a Trump supporting Joe-sixpack plumber or carpenter working on a project in your house "why can't you just do it this way?" he'll immediately try to make you understand how things aren't so simple and it's more complicated to do it right. It's not like people don't understand and master complexity everyday. But we all seem to carry these myths with us that everyone else's job is simple - including the government's. Just "fix" immigration or make eggs cheap again with a wave of the hand....

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7 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

There's also the fact that polling (including the CBS YouGov poll that Holic was extolling on Sunday) shows that a majority of voters were not supportive of pardoning J6 criminals.

I feel like I have to say it again and again and again, but people voted for him in-spite of these views, not because of them. 

MAGA doesn't get it

Doesn't matter. you can vote for someone in spite of their views, that doesn't excuse the vote. In fairness to Trump, he was clear what his intentions were. He said he would pardon them. He did. If people voted for him in spite of that or because of that is immaterial.

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2 minutes ago, ben9753 said:

Doesn't matter. you can vote for someone in spite of their views, that doesn't excuse the vote. In fairness to Trump, he was clear what his intentions were. He said he would pardon them. He did. If people voted for him in spite of that or because of that is immaterial.

Definitely not excusing anything. But there's value in understanding it.

Tiger337 Grand Master

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42 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Trump ran on pardoning J6'ers and was elected. 

Right, part of his target audience is white supremacists, nazis and fascists and they love him. MakeAmerica Great Again. 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

don't agree with the moral calculus here. It's not Biden's fault that Trump is a moral midget. If Biden had a program in place that was in process and working, even if slowly, and that any reasonable person would have left in place, then it's not his fault for not planning on Trump's perfidy or that the voters would elect the moral midget. If you want someone to blame - blame Trump voters - THEY brought you this situation - it was their choices, not Biden's. 

The article was written like people were standing at the gate, about to get shot if they didn't board and get out of the country and Trump is the lone cause of this grief.  Yet Biden, who was the actual president and made many other decisions to reverse course on things Trump set up before him, claimed he couldn't do anything but abide by the decision to leave Afghanistan (choice I actually supported him on).  So he owns the withdrawal and this type of aftermath that he again, had 3 years to address. 

As for blame, trust me, I have blame to go around for just about everyone in regards to Trump, even for Dem voters that tried to hoodwink folks into thinking inflation was all in their heads and created a subset of independents that realized sleepy Joe was actually sleeping at the wheel and they were being lied to.

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

This logic is sort of like an SoCal insurance company deciding to refuse fire claims by a merchant on the grounds he should have had a 1/2 off sale to move all his stock out of the store because he knew a fire in SoCal was always a possibility.

Some SoCal insurance companies stopped offering fire insurance because they saw issues that they didn't believe the governement was addressing.  They recognized a potential upcoming issue and planned for it.  Which is what I wish Biden would have done.  The big difference here was that fires were a dangerous threat, but not a given.  Trump said he would do things like this, that was a given.

I have no problem with putting the guy that pulled the trigger in jail, but the person that planned it deserves some justice as well.

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Mr.TaterSalad Grand Master

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3 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

I am sure the left will find something new to be outraged about today. 

Which side of the aisle spent years raging over the citizenship of a black President (including the current President), raged about the ACA, raged about election results, vandalized the US Capitol building, and beat police officers senseless?

Tigeraholic1 Grand Master

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7 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

I hope the Anglican Church has bodyguards for Bishop Budd she looks like the next to be hauled off to Trump's Gulag. 
 

So much for freedom of speech and religion 

She is on the view today. The script writes itself.

gehringer_2 Grand Master

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1 hour ago, ewsieg said:

As for blame, trust me, I have blame to go around for just about everyone in regards to Trump, even for Dem voters that tried to hoodwink folks into thinking inflation was all in their heads and created a subset of independents that realized sleepy Joe was actually sleeping at the wheel and they were being lied to

Absolutely - as a practical matter, there is a level where it doesn't matter if something happened because a well intentioned person was wrong or because a sociopathic person planned it. What happened is what happened. And mea culpa, I knew in 1980 that Carter was a better intentioned person than some of the people around Reagan, but to me that didn't excuse his governing incompetence. It was a calculated risk that Reagan himself could be talked out of some of his ignorances (which in at least some cases he was). And to this day we have no way to know if Carter might eventually have seen the light on solving inflation without starting the US down the road to middle class destruction the way Reaganomics did.

So sure, the world and all choices are grey to a great extent. It's just jarring so see the ethics of any person who at least tries to in some manner to do what they think is right compared to a sociopathic sadist like Trump.

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oblong Grand Master

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LOL at people who identify as Christians criticizing a bishop for saying we should have mercy and compassion for people.....  it exposes a lot.

Even more accurate is to say it shines a light on what we already know.

 

 

 

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LOL at people who identify as Christians criticizing a bishop for saying we should have mercy and compassion for people.....  it exposes a lot.

Even more accurate is to say it shines a light on what we already know.

 

 

 

Love thy neighbor…unless they oppose our lord and savior Donald Trump. “Christians” with the air quotes emphasized. 

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