Trumps Presidency 2025

[chasfh]

Putin solidifies his MAGA bona fides; red hats swoon.

 

[pfife]

Colon Rugg!   SHOT!

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Why didn't they just hold administrators at bay by gunpoint and just walk in? Do they think Biden is still president or something?

Oh, NOW we know why ICE didn't just hold administrators at bay at gunpoint and walk in—they weren't ICE at all. They were Secret Service.

That totally checks out, because there is no forking way ICE would ever take "no" for an answer when they want to just go in and raise hell.

But now we know: if you post anti-Trump content, they're coming for you. I mean, I guess most of us should be getting a little worried now? Because this subforum is lousy with anti-Trump content from everybody except, like, four or five guys.

Edited January 24 by chasfh

[romad1]

Just now, chasfh said:

Oh, NOW we know why ICE didn't just hold administrators at bay at gunpoint and walk in—they weren't ICE at all. They were Secret Service.

That totally checks out, because there is no forking way ICE would ever take "no" for an answer when they want to just go in and raise hell.

But now we know: if you post anti-Trump content, they're coming for you. I mean, I guess most of us should be getting a little worried now? Because this site is lousy with anti-Trump content.

Death threats are what they care about.  Anti-Trump "content" is not at all their purview.   We still have SOME professionals in law enforcement.

[romad1]

I cannot stress how far this musical feels from the Trump Administration round 2. 

 

If you are broken from all this.  I recommend you watch it and feel a little better.  This group of asshat haters in this administration is so far from the post-9/11 culture we had. 

Edited January 25 by romad1

[romad1]

1 minute ago, romad1 said:

I cannot stress how far this musical feels from the Trump Administration round 2. 

 

If you are broken from all this.  I recommend you watch it and feel a little better.  This group of asshat haters in this administration is so far from the post-9/11 culture we had. 

and when I say "we" i mean the World. 

[LaceyLou]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

Especially when MAGAs are working to "reform" Medicare (especially drug prices) Medicaid and Veteran's benefits. 

Let's not forget the pause on anything coming out of the NIH, CDC, and FDA... 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[mtutiger]

7 hours ago, mtutiger said:

What's Trump's plans to combat low home sales and high interest rates?

[oblong]

46 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Pro life. 
 

 

[LaceyLou]

48 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

My guess is he's hoping for another housing crisis so that when people lose their homes his rich buddies can swoop in and buy them all up.

[romad1]

2 minutes ago, LaceyLou said:

My guess is he's hoping for another housing crisis so that when people lose their homes his rich buddies can swoop in and buy them all up.

They want us to be renters.

[mtutiger]

"While other countries cling to the stale past, here in America we breathe life into dreams. We create the future, and the world follows us into tomorrow. Thanks to each wave of new arrivals to this land of opportunity, we're a nation forever young. Forever bursting with energy and new ideas, and always on the cutting edge, always leading the world to the next frontier. This quality is vital to our future as a nation. If we ever closed the door to new Americans, our leadership in the world would soon be lost."

Ronald Reagan, 1989

[chasfh]

2 hours ago, romad1 said:

Death threats are what they care about.  Anti-Trump "content" is not at all their purview.   We still have SOME professionals in law enforcement.

Is that what happened with the 11-year-old at the school? I didn’t see that in the story. 

[romad1]

13 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Is that what happened with the 11-year-old at the school? I didn’t see that in the story. 

No idea.  I think its possible that the new leadership of USSS might have been over-exuberantly pushing the "investigate all the threats" stuff.  You would otherwise not think an 11-year old at a school being being public enemy #1.  

As you know...you were alive in the United States...we had a period after 9/11 where there was no threshold too low to investigate because everyone was jittery.   We had this phrase that you may have heard "out of an abundance of caution" which sounds great to a politician because who can argue against being diligent?  But it led to insane ass-hattery of investigating cranks and attention-seekers and pranksters.  Not every threat is equal.     

Eventually, as the number of people on terrorist watch lists and the no-fly list (that's a much smaller number) approached the populations of small cities and maybe even some small countries and people started to realize that water supplies in rural Tennessee were not (stealing from Nate Bargatze's standup act) "next" after crashing airliners into the World Trade Center people started to use more rationality to evaluating threats. 

USSS always had a different criteria though.  They had to do some due diligence for almost every threat.  They had to say...yeah we looked into it to some extent.   USSS also has a psychological framework where they investigate "superfans" who show up all the events to be on rope-lines, because at some point there is a jilted lover aspect to this.  Think Monica Lewinsky showing up at that ropeline because she was a young woman in a sexual relationship with a powerful man who was suddenly cut off from that.  Well, imagine now that there is a person out there who just thinks all that stuff even if it isn't real.   There is this public figure, why don't they see we would be best friends if we just got to hang out at Red Lobster together.

I worked with these folks for about 10 years and we stole some horses and had some times and there are funny stories.   A couple of them were from New Jersey even if the one in MY superfan's version of events isn't exactly what he's spun into his narrative.

[chasfh]

12 minutes ago, romad1 said:

No idea.  I think its possible that the new leadership of USSS might have been over-exuberantly pushing the "investigate all the threats" stuff.  You would otherwise not think an 11-year old at a school being being public enemy #1.  

As you know...you were alive in the United States...we had a period after 9/11 where there was no threshold too low to investigate because everyone was jittery.   We had this phrase that you may have heard "out of an abundance of caution" which sounds great to a politician because who can argue against being diligent?  But it led to insane ass-hattery of investigating cranks and attention-seekers and pranksters.  Not every threat is equal.     

Eventually, as the number of people on terrorist watch lists and the no-fly list (that's a much smaller number) approached the populations of small cities and maybe even some small countries and people started to realize that water supplies in rural Tennessee were not (stealing from Nate Bargatze's standup act) "next" after crashing airliners into the World Trade Center people started to use more rationality to evaluating threats. 

USSS always had a different criteria though.  They had to do some due diligence for almost every threat.  They had to say...yeah we looked into it to some extent.   USSS also has a psychological framework where they investigate "superfans" who show up all the events to be on rope-lines, because at some point there is a jilted lover aspect to this.  Think Monica Lewinsky showing up at that ropeline because she was a young woman in a sexual relationship with a powerful man who was suddenly cut off from that.  Well, imagine now that there is a person out there who just thinks all that stuff even if it isn't real.   There is this public figure, why don't they see we would be best friends if we just got to hang out at Red Lobster together.

I worked with these folks for about 10 years and we stole some horses and had some times and there are funny stories.   A couple of them were from New Jersey even if the one in MY superfan's version of events isn't exactly what he's spun into his narrative.

Well written reply. I appreciate much of what you say here. I would reply only that if that 11-year-old lodged a death threat against the president, then the USSS visit would be an appropriate response. But if all the kid did was something that’s the equivalent of “Trump is a poopyhead”, then unless you are an intractable red hat, we should all seriously worry about our country and ourselves.

So, which do you think is likely to be the case here? And as you ponder an answer, just consider that if it were an actual death threat, or any other kind of bodily threat, do you think the USSS agents could have been successfully turned away from the door by elementary school administrators?

[romad1]

36 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Well written reply. I appreciate much of what you say here. I would reply only that if that 11-year-old lodged a death threat against the president, then the USSS visit would be an appropriate response. But if all the kid did was something that’s the equivalent of “Trump is a poopyhead”, then unless you are an intractable red hat, we should all seriously worry about our country and ourselves.

So, which do you think is likely to be the case here? And as you ponder an answer, just consider that if it were an actual death threat, or any other kind of bodily threat, do you think the USSS agents could have been successfully turned away from the door by elementary school administrators?

One scenario:  threat came from a kid's school email account.  Perhaps it was very specific and they wanted to impress upon him and make show of doing so.  Chicago Schools probably did the right thing by telling the Federals to pound sand until they actually make a respectful approach to the natives where they tell the leadership what and why they need to investigate. 

Maybe another scenario:  Kid is being spoofed by other kids. 

An 11-year old is old enough to kill someone but he lacks proximity and resources to actually carry it out.  If this kid were in Washington, DC or Mar-A-Lago areas and his father was a collector of sniper rifles who had a track record of leaving them out around the house....maybe.

Edited January 25 by romad1

[Mr.TaterSalad]

The party of family values and the moral majority of America just confirmed a man for Secretary of Defense that has multiple, documented allegations of domestic violence and sexual assault against him. Tell me about your values again please. 

[mtutiger]

I have a feeling that won't be the only tie that JV is gonna have to break

[pfife]

1 hour ago, mtutiger said:

I have a feeling that won't be the only tie that JV is gonna have to break

Hegseth's a DUI hire

(stolen from Bsky)

[mtutiger]

2 hours ago, romad1 said:

No idea.  I think its possible that the new leadership of USSS might have been over-exuberantly pushing the "investigate all the threats" stuff.  You would otherwise not think an 11-year old at a school being being public enemy #1.  

As you know...you were alive in the United States...we had a period after 9/11 where there was no threshold too low to investigate because everyone was jittery.   We had this phrase that you may have heard "out of an abundance of caution" which sounds great to a politician because who can argue against being diligent?  But it led to insane ass-hattery of investigating cranks and attention-seekers and pranksters.  Not every threat is equal.     

Eventually, as the number of people on terrorist watch lists and the no-fly list (that's a much smaller number) approached the populations of small cities and maybe even some small countries and people started to realize that water supplies in rural Tennessee were not (stealing from Nate Bargatze's standup act) "next" after crashing airliners into the World Trade Center people started to use more rationality to evaluating threats. 

USSS always had a different criteria though.  They had to do some due diligence for almost every threat.  They had to say...yeah we looked into it to some extent.   USSS also has a psychological framework where they investigate "superfans" who show up all the events to be on rope-lines, because at some point there is a jilted lover aspect to this.  Think Monica Lewinsky showing up at that ropeline because she was a young woman in a sexual relationship with a powerful man who was suddenly cut off from that.  Well, imagine now that there is a person out there who just thinks all that stuff even if it isn't real.   There is this public figure, why don't they see we would be best friends if we just got to hang out at Red Lobster together.

I worked with these folks for about 10 years and we stole some horses and had some times and there are funny stories.   A couple of them were from New Jersey even if the one in MY superfan's version of events isn't exactly what he's spun into his narrative.

The reporting on WGN tonight is that the school employees understood that the person was with DHS. That became an assumption of ICE, but USSS is also under the umbrella of DHS as well. It looks like a misunderstanding.

I think the story we are now getting is accurate, but it's not surprising with the way the incoming (now current) administration went out last weekend and specifically called out and targeted this city in the Wall Street Journal as being an epicenter for these raids. The end result is that residents are on edge and are distrustful of the feds.

It goes to the larger point made earlier: this administration is singularly focused on immigration, but the impacts of this focus could very well have consequences for local law enforcement and other agencies in dealing with investigations of possible crimes. 

[mtutiger]

Reports of Navajo people being detained in immigration sweeps sparks concern from tribal leaders

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“Despite possessing Certificates of Indian Blood (CIBs) and state-issued IDs, several individuals have been detained or questioned by ICE agents who do not recognize these documents as valid proof of citizenship,” the Navajo Nation Council stated in a press release.

 

[Tigermojo]

5 hours ago, mtutiger said:

Reports of Navajo people being detained in immigration sweeps sparks concern from tribal leaders

 

It feels like we're living in one of those alternate history movies.

[Edman85]

20 hours ago, chasfh said:

I totally get what you mean, but getting people to tune out so they can freely crime? That’s what their goal is. 

I got news for you: they freely crime whether we bitch about it online or not.

[Tigeraholic1]

More convicted J6’ers have rejected their pardons than supposed innocent preemptive Biden pardons. I find the interesting.

Edited Saturday at 01:49 PM by Tigeraholic1