Trumps Presidency 2025

[Tigerbomb13]

20 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

An alleged alcoholic, an alleged domestic abuser, an alleged sexual predator who paid a women off for $50,000, and a guy who had to resign from a military-related charitable organization for alleged financial impropriety is what we need?

Not only do these people think this is what we need, these things are a badge of honor to these people. 

[oblong]

28 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

I mean, when I see the administration taking a loaded gun and and threatening to shoot ourselves in the foot on this particular issue... Yeah, I'm going to hold that against them.

And it’s not our problem to solve.  He and his supporters said the would do it and they aren’t or now admit it’s hard. 

[1776]

25 minutes ago, oblong said:

And it’s not our problem to solve.  He and his supporters said the would do it and they aren’t or now admit it’s hard. 

Politicians say whatever it takes to be elected. After that…

[mtutiger]

26 minutes ago, oblong said:

And it’s not our problem to solve.  

Exactly. He's the POTUS, he's the one who campaigned on taking care of it and taking care of it quickly.

Maybe when his administration gets done doing things like directing the Air Force not to teach about the Tuskegee Airman, they can get around with telling us how they plan to addressing high costs.

[RatkoVarda]

41 minutes ago, 1776 said:

Unfortunately, the recent attempt to act on it imploded. I’ll leave it at that. 

One problem with "leaving it at that" is that you get to ignore that the last 2 significant proposed immigration reforms bills were in 2013, when LIttle Marco Rubio voted against HIS OWN BILL once Tea Party crazies turned on him and

then the 2024 proposal that James Langford negotiated, giving MAGA everything they wanted, but was then torpedoed by Trump who wanted chaos.

[Tigeraholic1]

1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Questions for our Trump voting friends here about the economy and immigration. We know that many people on the right have said that "no one wants to work anymore." That was a common refrain post-Covid with all the labor shortages occurring. Currently, according to estimates from the Center for Migration Studies of New York and other groups/think tanks, there as many as 8.3 million undocumented immigrants work in the US economy. They make up an estimated 5.2% of the US workforce. In the agriculture, farm, and food processing industries undocumented immigrants make up nearly 40-44% of the workforce according to estimates from the USDA. Undocumented immigrants work in construction (est. 1.5 million), restaurants (est. 1 million), agriculture and farms (est. 320,000), groundskeeping/landscaping (est. 300,000), and food processing and manufacturing (est. 200,000), among many other occupations.

Donald Trump has talked about engaging in the largest mass deportation effort in history and has talked about deporting millions of undocumented people. So if no one wants to work, and we have these labor shortages in the US workforce, how is mass deporting some 8.3 million workers, or 5% or so of the labor force, going to help improve the economy? How is deporting 40-44% going to lower costs on food prices at the grocery store or at restaurants? If 5% or so of our labor force is deported, who is going to fill those jobs in agriculture/farm/food processing, construction, groundskeeping/landscaping, hospitality, housekeeping, etc.? How long will it take for businesses, small and large, to backfill these roles? Who does these jobs in the meantime while they are waiting to hire prospective employees, onboard, and adequately train them?

Slave owners had a lot of reasons to not free the slaves too.

[Tigeraholic1]

1 hour ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

Not only do these people think this is what we need, these things are a badge of honor to these people. 

Tell me you have never been in the military by telling me you have never been in the military….

[CMRivdogs]

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Guest on Megyn Kelly this week: “So, that's the thing is the funniest joke we ever pulled on the Democrats was convincing them that Project 2025 wasn't real…it's over, we won, yes, we're going to do Project 2025. And the other thing is, it's good.”
Most people paying attention knew Trump’s attempts to appear distant from Project 2025 were false. Any outlet that suggested otherwise is too credulous to be a reliable source of information.

https://bsky.app/profile/pastpunditry.bsky.social/post/3lgl4roqhf22p

 

[Tigerbomb13]

22 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Tell me you have never been in the military by telling me you have never been in the military….

I haven’t been, but all of my friends that have been are not fans of sexual assault or Hegseth. I was speaking of MAGA. 

[1776]

59 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

One problem with "leaving it at that" is that you get to ignore that the last 2 significant proposed immigration reforms bills were in 2013, when LIttle Marco Rubio voted against HIS OWN BILL once Tea Party crazies turned on him and

then the 2024 proposal that James Langford negotiated, giving MAGA everything they wanted, but was then torpedoed by Trump who wanted chaos.

That’s why I didn’t get into that. Rehash something that didn’t solve anything. I think everybody here knows what went down. It was discussed at length at the time.

[CMRivdogs]

 

[romad1]

15 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

I haven’t been, but all of my friends that have been are not fans of sexual assault or Hegseth. I was speaking of MAGA. 

Women are not veterans apparently. Tammy Duckworth forgot her legs in her other purse apparently 

[mtutiger]

I mean, come on...

[chasfh]

6 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

 

Christ Almighty, she's a complete dip****.

[Tigeraholic1]

37 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Slave owners had a lot of reasons to not free the slaves too.

To elaborate more on this. Right now you are saying that 5% of the work force is clearly under compensated. So say you grant them citizenship. The cost to employ rises just by giving them competitive wages then you add the cost of healthcare and everything that goes with that. This directly will affect the cost of goods. That’s why I equate it to slavey in the sense they can not advocate for themselves. I am sorry they broke the laws coming here but here we are.

[Tigeraholic1]

3 hours ago, romad1 said:

The African Americans who voted for Trump must be really proud this morning.

Always leave it to the lw white guy to be outraged for the minority group they are not apart of. Never fails.

[Tigeraholic1]

Fantastic pick, keep them coming.

 

[CMRivdogs]

9 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

To elaborate more on this. Right now you are saying that 5% of the work force is clearly under compensated. So say you grant them citizenship. The cost to employ rises just by giving them competitive wages then you add the cost of healthcare and everything that goes with that. This directly will affect the cost of goods. That’s why I equate it to slavey in the sense they can not advocate for themselves. I am sorry they broke the laws coming here but here we are.

Still doesn't justify treating people less than human. Especially when people you advocate for are unwilling to even consider supporting a legal pathway to citizenship. Higher wages and prices may seem an inconvenience to you, some may see it as a pathway to stability. 
I realize in reality it's an endless circle. Just remember, the guy above you wants to keep you down as well.

[CMRivdogs]

4 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Fantastic pick, keep them coming.

 

Botox and dog killing. A winner for MAGA

[mtutiger]

1 hour ago, RatkoVarda said:

One problem with "leaving it at that" is that you get to ignore that the last 2 significant proposed immigration reforms bills were in 2013, when LIttle Marco Rubio voted against HIS OWN BILL once Tea Party crazies turned on him and

then the 2024 proposal that James Langford negotiated, giving MAGA everything they wanted, but was then torpedoed by Trump who wanted chaos.

I'm not going to defend the Ds and how they have handled the issue, they are a big reason we find ourselves here 

But let's be honest with ourselves: the GOP, even now, has zero interest in solving any problems related to immigration and the border.

[Tigeraholic1]

6 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

I'm not going to defend the Ds and how they have handled the issue, they are a big reason we find ourselves here 

But let's be honest with ourselves: the GOP, even now, has zero interest in solving any problems related to immigration and the border.

In less than a week the border is more secure than it has been in four years. C-17’s are transporting illegals as we speak. The MARINES are on the border repairing transit routes. 

[mtutiger]

Holic laughs, but we all know that political parties love to keep problems ongoing when they benefit from them

[antrat]

Something must be wrong. Just got back from the grocery store. Eggs aren't 99 cents a dozen.

[Tigeraholic1]

 

[mtutiger]

15 minutes ago, antrat said:

Something must be wrong. Just got back from the grocery store. Eggs aren't 99 cents a dozen.

$4.69 at the local Aldi...