Trumps Presidency 2025

[chasfh]

2 hours ago, oblong said:

I have a name for people who cover up affairs simply because they are “soldiers”.  I won’t share it here because asterisks are boring.  
 

service doesn’t absolve being a jackass. 

I also don't respect when anyone vaingloriously guilts people into thanking them for their service and/or shutting the hell up about whatever by highlighting sacrifices they say they endured so other people don't have to do it.

There's a passage in Matthew about this very thing, which you'll hear in Ash Wednesday services: "When you fast, do not look somber as the hypocrites do, for they disfigure their faces to show others they are fasting. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full." Ex-mils who guilt others about their own stint are receiving their reward in full whenever they do that.

[Tigeraholic1]

Rom I am sorry, I have no axe to grind with you. You’re a good guy and mean well. Please accept my apology.

[mtutiger]

Looks like Dr. Phil is embedded at the Hilton lol

[romad1]

10 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I also don't respect when anyone vaingloriously guilts people into thanking them for their service and/or shutting the hell up about whatever by highlighting sacrifices they say they endured so other people don't have to do it.

There's a passage in Matthew about this very thing, which you'll hear in Ash Wednesday services: "When you fast, do not look somber as the hypocrites do, for they disfigure their faces to show others they are fasting. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full." Ex-mils who guilt others about their own stint are receiving their reward in full whenever they do that.

I would be wary of anyone using their status as a cudgel. 

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

He as most Vets did not care for Harris. Maybe if they would have had a ran out someone else he would have considered them.

That is what I guessed.   Vets tend to prefer Republicans which I think has more to do with demographics than results.  

My father, in his later years, also did not hold anything against people who avoided the draft.  He was not afraid to be critical of fellow veterans who turned out to be jackasses though. 

He didn't give a crap about politics.  He thought it was stupid.  He loved to play devils advocate with people from both parties.  

[Tiger337]

37 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I also don't respect when anyone vaingloriously guilts people into thanking them for their service and/or shutting the hell up about whatever by highlighting sacrifices they say they endured so other people don't have to do it.

There's a passage in Matthew about this very thing, which you'll hear in Ash Wednesday services: "When you fast, do not look somber as the hypocrites do, for they disfigure their faces to show others they are fasting. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full." Ex-mils who guilt others about their own stint are receiving their reward in full whenever they do that.

I like to hear about people's service experiences and they certainly have a perspective that I can never have.  However, I agree that they should not use it to shut down our opinions.  Their service does not make them right about everything related to the military.  

[romad1]

1 minute ago, Tiger337 said:

I like to hear about people's service experiences and they certainly have a perspective that I can never have.  However, I agree that they should not use it to shut down our opinions.  Their service does not make them right about everything related to the military.  

It certainly doesn’t make Pete Hegseth uniquely qualified to be SecDef as the preceding dudes back to Ash Carter were all veterans.

[romad1]

Why won’t Trump release the Epstein Files?

[Tigeraholic1]

Based

 

[chasfh]

I think everyone understands that today's Republicans are yesteryear's Dixiecrats.

[mtutiger]

2 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I think everyone understands that today's Republicans are yesteryear's Dixiecrats.

Also very telling that he just completely ignores Tater's points and heads straight for a "For You" Twitter account making a lame joke.

Just got nothing...

[mtutiger]

Colombia is a big exporter of petroleum, coffee and tea... Plan accordingly 

[Tigeraholic1]

3 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Colombia is a big exporter of petroleum, coffee and tea... Plan accordingly 

Lol

 

[Tigeraholic1]

That is how it is done my friends…

[chasfh]

8 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Also very telling that he just completely ignores Tater's points and heads straight for a "For You" Twitter account making a lame joke.

Just got nothing...

He's clearly become an operative. Why are people giving him so much air?

[LaceyLou]

16 hours ago, mtutiger said:

https://www.tuskegeeairmen.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Statement_TAI_USAF_Training_Courses.pdf

Oh really?

I would hope they'd put back the footage of the women WWII pilots also. I they don't, that says a lot.

[Tigeraholic1]

4 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

First off, as I've said before I want these people to be paid fair market, livable wages. If you're worried about undocumented people affecting the cost of goods and services were they to be paid more, a living wage, are you saying you don't want any American citizens who take these jobs to be paid livable wages either?

Furthermore, we already have an estimated labor shortage of 1.7 million workers. So if we deport an additional, estimated, 8.3 million undocumented workers on top of that we're at an estimated nearly 10 million worker shortage. How do we make up that deficit because there aren't enough American workers to make it up right now or seemingly in the future. 

So you don't want people to be paid at livable wages because of cost concerns, and you don't want undocumented people doing these jobs either at any wage because they came here illegally. So who exactly is going to fill these jobs? Someone has to, the need for them isn't just going to disappear. Do you want and/or expect American citizens to work below market value pay and do these jobs?

I personally would be happy with amnesty for non criminal illegal aliens. After rooting out the over a million illegals who have deportation status. Maybe it will happen? Definitely would create a ton of republican voters if Trump did it. 

[Tigeraholic1]

11 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Lol

 

Oh man what a time to be alive….

 

[LaceyLou]

8 minutes ago, chasfh said:

He's clearly become an operative. Why are people giving him so much air?

There are people I choose not to engage with for this reason-even when it's a topic I'm interested in. I guess in my old age I've learned to choose my battles more wisely, and to only work on what I know I have the power to change.

 

FWIW, this is true not only here, but IRL and on other platforms as well.

[romad1]

4 hours ago, oblong said:

I have a name for people who cover up affairs simply because they are “soldiers”.  I won’t share it here because asterisks are boring.  
 

service doesn’t absolve being a jackass. 

e.g., Eddie Gallagher, who started 9-line apparel which is a great name but he's a dirt bag.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/01/02/some-veterans-salty-over-eddie-gallaghers-new-clothing-line/

[chasfh]

2 minutes ago, LaceyLou said:

There are people I choose not to engage with for this reason-even when it's a topic I'm interested in. I guess in my old age I've learned to choose my battles more wisely, and to only work on what I know I have the power to change.

 

FWIW, this is true not only here, but IRL and on other platforms as well.

I hear ya. I have almost completely stopped talking politics with people IRL, especially strangers, and even with my family. There's one guy I talk with where it comes up and we're of the same mind, but I get weary even then of my own doom-spiraling, and I usually end up telling him, OK, that's enough of that. Probably because he's still pretending things are completely normal and the mid-terms will offer Trump a rebuke in a free and fair election. We'll see, but if it doesn't, I don't think it will because the voters will gladly put them right back in, let's put it that way.

This area is basically my only outlet, because I get to articulate my thoughts far more precisely than I can otherwise.

[mtutiger]

Regarding the potential tariffs against Colombia, one thing Trump has never understood (or maybe just doesn't care about) is how much of our power in the world comes from being a trusted, reliable partner. It's soft power, but it has worked to our benefit as a country since the end of WWII

Actions like this cede ground... And when ground is ceded, a vacuum is created. And vacuum's end up being filled by others (ie. China)

[smr-nj]

13 minutes ago, LaceyLou said:

I would hope they'd put back the footage of the women WWII pilots also. I they don't, that says a lot.

LL, I’m afraid that ship has sailed. Whether they restore this little bit, it will not make the picture any brighter for women in this country.  We’ve been told to “keep your legs together, you slut” in one breath, and “have lots of kids, but stay at home, and don’t worry that you’ll be replaced by a younger version in a few years (because you will), you’ll be “taken care of”. (Giant lie)
 

Good lord.  The race to the bottom took less time than anyone could have imagined.

[romad1]

2 minutes ago, smr-nj said:

LL, I’m afraid that ship has sailed. Whether they restore this little bit, it will not make the picture any brighter for women in this country.  We’ve been told to “keep your legs together, you slut” in one breath, and “have lots of kids, but stay at home, and don’t worry that you’ll be replaced by a younger version in a few years (because you will), you’ll be “taken care of”. (Giant lie)
 

Good lord.  The race to the bottom took less time than anyone could have imagined.

Re: the women pilots and Tuskegee Airmen what makes it worse is the fact that its an interpretation of the will of the King that the Air Force education people are doing.  "He must not want us talking about the contributions of marginalized communities that would otherwise be interpreted as DEI."

Those who don't play along will be reported.

 

[mtutiger]

19 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I hear ya. I have almost completely stopped talking politics with people IRL, especially strangers, and even with my family. There's one guy I talk with where it comes up and we're of the same mind, but I get weary even then of my own doom-spiraling, and I usually end up telling him, OK, that's enough of that. Probably because he's still pretending things are completely normal and the mid-terms will offer Trump a rebuke in a free and fair election. We'll see, but if it doesn't, I don't think it will because the voters will gladly put them right back in, let's put it that way.

This area is basically my only outlet, because I get to articulate my thoughts far more precisely than I can otherwise.

Even though I understand Eddie's perspective and view, I understand this as well. For a variety of reasons I keep my thoughts to myself IRL unless directly asked... And even then I'm usually filtered

Edited Sunday at 08:30 PM by mtutiger