Trumps Presidency 2025

[CMRivdogs]

3 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Given how some major corporations have acted since Trump won, you would think that "Ending federal efforts to hire women and minorities" would poll a lot lower

I think there may be a general feeling among the populace that employers are colorblind and also blind to sex. 

[chasfh]

59 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

We just don't agree on this... And frankly think the defeatism is a self fulfilling prophecy.

I don't think pointing out that the Trump administration getting everything they want so far, which appears true on its face, is defeatist.

[CMRivdogs]

 

[mtutiger]

2 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

I think there may be a general feeling among the populace that employers are colorblind and also blind to sex. 

My Occam's Razor is that the Targets of the world are misreading the moment and misreading *why* Trump won. (ie. Not because of DEI)

[HighOPS]

10 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

All of them???

Oh dear. If that ends up poorly written in addition to destroying departments (the intent) it could put so much money in the economy that we'd wish for the post COVID inflation. 

[mtutiger]

10 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I don't think pointing out that the Trump administration getting everything they want so far, which appears true on its face, is defeatist.

This action is generating a lot of actual pushback, has now been slapped down by the courts (at least temporarily), has given Democrats (who prior to today were stuck in neutral at best) a cudgel with which to hit the administration with repeatedly (should they take it), and there's reason to believe because it impacts a lot of federal programs that people take for granted included (basically every program), it's something that will break through to normal people. 

I don't think they wanted or expected the rollout of their government funding freeze to happen like it did. It's honestly pretty clear cut that it was done haphazardly and incompetently. So we just disagree here.

Edited Tuesday at 10:15 PM by mtutiger

[mtutiger]

You bought the ticket, Cardinal... You get to take the ride 

[chasfh]

49 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

 

This is consistent with red hats' desire to destroy the government entirely.

[Motor City Sonics]

4 minutes ago, chasfh said:

This is consistent with red hats' desire to destroy the government entirely.

Yet so many of them rely on money from the government. 

[Sports_Freak]

4 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Won't matter.  Because here's what happens.  About two weeks before the midterms they end Social Security and Medicare.  They just end it.   Riots in the streets.   Martial Law enacted, Elections suspended indefinitely.     Book it. 

Agreed. But it won't be before midterms. Trump is doing all he can to stir up outrage now, hoping it will turn to violence. The Bunker Beech will immediately declare martial law and suspend the constitution. Down with democracy. 

[pfife]

3 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Grievance of the day. On repeat even.....

Daily defense of nazis

Well done 

[Tigeraholic1]

Lol

 

[chasfh]

26 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

This action is generating a lot of actual pushback, has now been slapped down by the courts (at least temporarily), has given Democrats (who prior to today were stuck in neutral at best) a cudgel with which to hit the administration with repeatedly (should they take it), and there's reason to believe because it impacts a lot of federal programs that people take for granted included (basically every program), it's something that will break through to normal people. 

I don't think they wanted or expected the rollout of their government funding freeze to happen like it did. It's honestly pretty clear cut that it was done haphazardly and incompetently. So we just disagree here.

"Haphazard" doesn't mean this is all unplanned. I believe it's all unorganized for the reason I mentioned earlier: they're purposefully flooding the zone with the fire hose to defeat any kind of opposition that might stop them, because no one can focus on anything. Believe me when I tell you, by the end of the week, we'll have basically forgotten he's offered buyouts to all federal workers, because there will have been numerous new outrages we'll be trying to focus on. That might be a sign of incompetence, but it is not incompetence per se. We have yet to see whatever Phase II of their plan to destroy America is.

As for the funding freeze itself, I really don't think they care that it appears haphazard. That's part of its charming appeal to red hats. It's exciting. It's thrilling. It's fun. And it's goddamn entertaining, and even you have to admit that's a big reason why they voted MAGA.

What I would agree with you on is that this cannot continue on at this pace for four straight years. At some point this is all going to crest, at which point we may be able to catch a breath and survey the damage before they turn on the hose again. But for now, it's clear to me that red hats' prime directive is make libtards cry, and nothing else is even a close second. Witness posts on this very forum to that effect.

The $64 question to me is, once rank-and-file red hats start feeling the pain of Trump's action on the ground, will they accept it as the price of sweet lib tears and reason that, well, at least they're not as bad off as the people they want to destroy? Or might the scales finally start to fall from their eyes and they see what their golden calf hath wrought? I'm not holding my breath on the latter. For all we know, they might be so far gone that they go to their graves happily impoverished but "winning", rather than live to admit they're were wrong the whole time.

[chasfh]

40 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

You bought the ticket, Cardinal... You get to take the ride 

Everything I have read about Trump is that he is very charming in private. I think the psychology at work here is that he comes off as a firebreather in public but as a big pussycat in private, which people like Dolan find reassuring when they meet and talk with him, and then they BS themselves into being reassured that everything is going to be OK for them, that he is truly on their side and no harm will befall them. And then when they discover the truth, it's too late.

[Tiger337]

8 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Everything I have read about Trump is that he is very charming in private. I think the psychology at work here is that he comes off as a firebreather in public but as a big pussycat in private, which people like Dolan find reassuring when they meet and talk with him, and then they BS themselves into being reassured that everything is going to be OK for them, that he is truly on their side and no harm will befall them. And then when they discover the truth, it's too late.

I have seen clips of him being "charming" in private.  I have a very sensitive BS meter, but it comes off as totally phoney.  He is 100% douchebag.  

[Tiger337]

2 hours ago, mtutiger said:

I think we ascribe a lot of genius to these guys.... the reality is that this rollout of this policy being a ****show suggests a lot of incompetence.

It doesn't downplay the malevolence to recognize this. Politically, there are ways that they could have done all of their plans that wouldn't have caused this uproar, which would have made said plans a lot easier. But they didn't do that.

Yup, Trump's desire to put on a show could be his downfall.  They could do it more quietly and effectively, but that wouldn't be fun. 

The new step for libs will be endless lawsuits in an effort to counter the endless chaos.      

[Motor City Sonics]

"Let them eat cake"

Well, say that about and to enough people and we may end up with a similar ending.  

 

You think this is a great issue for the Democrats to run on.    And it is, but I don't think we're going to to get to vote anymore.     Is that an extreme thought?  I put nothing past these bastards.   

And you know what strategy I can easily see them implementing.   Hey, states with Republican Governors, you can have benefits, but states with Democratic Governors, you will be cut off until you elect a Republican.  They'll just blatantly say it.   And it might work.   Get 2/3rds of the states and BAM - New Constitution.   No more 18-21 year olds voting (maybe 18-25 year olds).   No more term limits on a President.   No more elections, but rather appointments.   Screw you DJ,  Don Jr. is new King.  

 

[Motor City Sonics]

Hey, Now Bobby ****head Kennedy can say  -  See, I promised I'd end Obesity in this country and this is how we'll do it.  No more benefits,  no more Meals on Wheels,  no more School Meals (those ****ing freeloading grade schoolers) and for the rest of us, a pint of strawberries for $12 or $5 an orange.

 

Hey look.  Elon and Bezos have a new line of food you can eat.   Sign a pledge and you can get their food for cheap !

[chasfh]

40 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I have seen clips of him being "charming" in private.  I have a very sensitive BS meter, but it comes off as totally phoney.  He is 100% douchebag.  

I know it looks like that from a distance, but I wonder whether it feels different in person? Is that why people get snowed? Maybe they want to believe he’s being genuine in the moment, and he delivers just enough by of the charm to pull that off?

[RatkoVarda]

Trump has the Stasi working full time to find "disloyal" (meaning normal) federal workers.

[pfife]

Lol at posting AOC reply guys here 

[chasfh]

It is now occurring to me that the buyout of federal workers is not about completely shrinking the size of the federal government to practically nothing, but rather about replacing all the woke motherhubbards who are there right now.

[Tigermojo]

7 minutes ago, chasfh said:

It is now occurring to me that the buyout of federal workers is not about completely shrinking the size of the federal government to practically nothing, but rather about replacing all the woke motherhubbards who are there right now.

They don't even need to waste money on HR, just use the KKK interview process.

[CMRivdogs]

6 minutes ago, Tigermojo said:

They don't even need to waste money on HR, just use the KKK interview process.

They'll just hire friends, families, and donors. Want a Fed job, pay $5000 in advance and kiss the ring

[mtutiger]

The letter isn't a real buyout