mtutiger Posted Friday at 07:11 PM Posted Friday at 07:11 PM 1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said: Trump's talking points on sending water from the north have never made sense scientifically, but they were always equally inane from a political standpoint as well for this very reason.... the people most impacted by more and more water being sent from Central and Northern Cal down to the LA Basin are very very R constituencies. 1 Quote
romad1 Posted Friday at 07:47 PM Posted Friday at 07:47 PM 7 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: he's right. Quote
Tigerbomb13 Posted Friday at 08:02 PM Posted Friday at 08:02 PM Canada is pissed. And rightfully so. Quote
mtutiger Posted Friday at 08:06 PM Posted Friday at 08:06 PM Right now, it's an open question and there is speculation among the chatter class that this is a bluff and that they may be looking for some kind of outcome similar to Colombia that can be spun politically. But the accumulation of these events over time will damage this country and we will be seen a less than reliable partner. Which is a gift to countries like China. 1 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted Friday at 08:10 PM Posted Friday at 08:10 PM 3 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Right now, it's an open question and there is speculation among the chatter class that this is a bluff and that they may be looking for some kind of outcome similar to Colombia that can be spun politically. But the accumulation of these events over time will damage this country and we will be seen a less than reliable partner. Which is a gift to countries like China. The damage done is going to take much more than a single term from a Democrat. Democrats will be dragged during the recovery like Obama and Biden and we will go back to another Republican. Quote
mtutiger Posted Friday at 08:51 PM Posted Friday at 08:51 PM 17 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: People may not have realized it at the time, but their vote for Donald Trump was a vote for Elon Musk.... Quote
Motown Bombers Posted Friday at 08:53 PM Posted Friday at 08:53 PM Just now, mtutiger said: People may not have realized it at the time, but their vote for Donald Trump was a vote for Elon Musk.... I mean, Harris and Dems warned them. Quote
Tiger337 Posted Friday at 09:07 PM Posted Friday at 09:07 PM 1 hour ago, Tigerbomb13 said: Canada is pissed. And rightfully so. Sadly, I am rooting for Canada here. I love our country and Trump is a much bigger threat to our country than Canada. I have never felt that way about any president. Not even close. 1 Quote
Tigerbomb13 Posted Friday at 09:10 PM Posted Friday at 09:10 PM 2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Sadly, I am rooting for Canada here. I love our country and Trump is a much bigger threat to our country than Canada. I have never felt that way about any president. Not even close. He’s basically an arsonist right now, destroying the country internally once peace at a time until there’s nothing left for anything else but him and the rest of his oligarchs. 1 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted Friday at 09:21 PM Posted Friday at 09:21 PM Elon Musk is everything Republicans claimed George Soros was and more. 2 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted Friday at 09:56 PM Posted Friday at 09:56 PM (edited) 9 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: that's about $8.00/bbl. If you get 30 gallons of product out of a barrel of crude (typical - and that includes jet and diesel), that's $0.26/gal at the pump. But since a good bit of Canadian product - in particular the Tar Sands product - is normally sold at a discount to 'better' crudes I don't know if 10% would drive much market switching. Edited Friday at 10:07 PM by gehringer_2 Quote
Tigermojo Posted Friday at 10:02 PM Posted Friday at 10:02 PM What does he even want? The whole world to be narcissist misogynist bigots or else? Quote
chasfh Posted Friday at 10:14 PM Posted Friday at 10:14 PM 7 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: Sinema used to be a leftist like Fetterman and Green Party. So done with these so called progressives. We would have been better off with Conor Lamb. I think we've learning that far leftists and hard right wingers are cut from the same "hey look at me, I'm different, look at me!" cloth. Whichever gets them the most attention, that's what they're gonna do. 1 Quote
Tigerbomb13 Posted Friday at 10:15 PM Posted Friday at 10:15 PM Federal health agencies remove data from websites : Shots - Health News https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/01/31/nx-s1-5282274/trump-administration-purges-health-websites Quote
gehringer_2 Posted Friday at 10:16 PM Posted Friday at 10:16 PM 4 minutes ago, Tigermojo said: What does he even want? The whole world to be narcissist misogynist bigots or else? He has long believed the US has let get itself get the short end of the stick in trade negotiations so he thinks he's somehow helping the US worker/economy. But I just don't see these arbitrary, scattershot, capricious actions as being the kind of thing that's going to encourage any American businesses to start re-shoring. If Trump had a long term plan with investment supports, tax policy, and legally locked in tariffs over a term that a business could use as the basis to go borrow money to invest that would be one thing, but these kinds of actions are here today and could as easily be gone tomorrow based Donnie's daily choler. Hard to imagine any sane org making investment decisions based on this. 1 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted Friday at 10:18 PM Posted Friday at 10:18 PM 1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said: He has long believed the US has let get itself get the short end of the stick in trade negotiations so he thinks he's somehow helping the US worker/economy. But I just don't see these arbitrary, scattershot, capricious actions as being the kind of thing that's going to encourage any American businesses to start re-shoring. If Trump had a long term plan with investment supports, tax policy, and legally locked in tariffs over a term that a business could use as the basis to go borrow money to invest that would be one thing, but these kinds of actions are here today and could as easily be gone tomorrow based Donnie's daily choler. Hard to imagine any sane org making investment decisions based on this. He's bankrupted every business he has ever run, so no, he doesn't make sane decisions. Quote
chasfh Posted Friday at 10:19 PM Posted Friday at 10:19 PM 4 hours ago, romad1 said: Lets hope they get some game quick. I'll be straight with you: I'm a bit worried about people running just to "throw the old guard out", because it will tend to attract a lot of the same "leftists" that boomerang back and forth on the spectrum just for the attention. people like ... well, like Simena (and Fetterman?). I want to see people running who have the same principles as the old guard who are also young and not afraid to mix it up with the Trumpers. 1 Quote
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