CMRivdogs Posted January 7 Posted January 7 I thought I'd start something new. One of my current interests is the road leading up the signing of the Declaration of Independence. The events and thoughts of the leaders of that time that lead to the decision to meet in Philadelphia in 1776. 1774 was a pivotal year with the events in Boston and the Colonies reaction to England's reaction the dumping of tea in the Boston Harbor (among other events). Anyway, here goes Quote 7 JANUARY 1775, LONDON: The convoluted negotiations continue between Benjamin Franklin and intermediaries of the imperial government: Caroline Howe sends word to Franklin that she has a letter to show him from her brother, Lord Howe; Franklin pays a call on Caroline immediately. https://bsky.app/profile/revwar250.bsky.social https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Franklin/01-21-02-0238 Quote Franklin, in reply to Mrs. Howe’s request in the preceding document, called upon her immediately. She showed him a letter from her brother that asked for the American’s answers to two questions. First, would his constituents approve his agreeing to pay for the tea, on condition that they were promised redress of their grievances when their assembly petitioned for it? Second, did he still hold to the position he had taken in his “Hints” on aids or requisitions? He answered the questions then and there, in reverse order, and she copied and forwarded his reply that evening.8 No 9 [January 7?,9 1775] The proposition in the former Paper relating to Aids; is still in Contemplation of the Author, and, as he thinks, is included in the last Article of the present Paper.1 The People of America conceiving that Parliament has no Right to tax them, and that there fore all that has been extorted from them by the Operation of the Duty Acts, with the Assistance of an armed Force, preceding the Destruction of the Tea, is so much Injury, which ought in order of time to be first repair’d, before a Demand on the Tea Account can be justly made of them; are not, he thinks likely to approve of the Measure proposed, and pay in the first place the Value demanded, especially as 20 times as much Injury has since been done them by blocking up their Port, and their Castle also seiz’d before by the Crown has not been restor’d, nor any Satisfaction offered them for the same.2 1 Quote
chasfh Posted January 7 Posted January 7 I just discovered this history podcast, American History Hit. It sounds similar to American History Tellers, but I like Hit better than Tellers because it's a conversation with historians, versus a dramatic reenacting of events, which I find cheesy. https://shows.acast.com/american-history-hit 1 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted January 8 Author Posted January 8 Quote 8 JANUARY 1775, BOSTON: General Gage orders “any Officers of the different Regts. [who] are capable of taking sketches of a Country” to submit their names to headquarters. Lieutenant Barker of the 4th Foot takes offense at the wording of the order, which implies Gage “doubted whether there were any such,” but Lieutenant Mackenzie of the 23rd frankly admits “I am afraid not many Officers in this Army will be found qualified for this Service.” “It is a branch of Military education too little attended to, or sought after by our Officers, and yet is not only extremely necessary and useful in time of War, but very entertaining and instructive. … “Some of the Officers who have been appointed Assistant Engineers, hardly know the names of the different parts of a Fortification. They should have been called overseers of the works, or rather Workmen, and then they would not have been laughed at for their ignorance, as they now are.” https://bsky.app/profile/revwar250.bsky.social/post/3lfajftn2kd2p Quote
CMRivdogs Posted January 8 Author Posted January 8 Quote 8 JANUARY 1775, BOSTON: Though he has large warships under his command, Admiral Samuel Graves needs smaller, shallower-drafted vessels to maintain the Royal Navy blockade of the labyrinthine channels of Boston Harbor, so he has purchased a schooner, which he names Diana. Constructed last year, Diana was used as a fishing vessel before the navy purchased her. In command of the newest addition to the blockade fleet, he places his own nephew, Lieutenant Thomas Graves. https://bsky.app/profile/revwar250.bsky.social/post/3lfaqvi7o6t2p Quote
CMRivdogs Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 It's a day late but a good thought Quote Rev250 quote of the day — “Our patriots have been so intent upon building up American rights, that they have overlooked…our own interest. . . . they have been arguing away our most essential rights.” —“Massachusettensis” #OTD Jan 9, 1775 https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/Daniel Leonard Letter complete.pdf #c18 https://bsky.app/profile/revolution250.bsky.social/post/3lfe4zbzew223 https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/Daniel Leonard Letter complete.pdf Quote
smr-nj Posted January 12 Posted January 12 January 12, 1971 - All in the Family debuted on CBS. This series was groundbreaking in so many ways. 1 Quote
Screwball Posted January 13 Posted January 13 2 hours ago, smr-nj said: January 12, 1971 - All in the Family debuted on CBS. This series was groundbreaking in so many ways. Jean Stapleton made that show IMO. I'm not sure it would get on TV today. Quote
chasfh Posted January 13 Posted January 13 On 1/11/2025 at 1:23 PM, CMRivdogs said: Maybe Shell should sponsor Semiquincentnennial Minutes on CBS. Quote
chasfh Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) 11 hours ago, Screwball said: Jean Stapleton made that show IMO. I'm not sure it would get on TV today. I think “All in the Family” might not get on TV today because it was on 50+ years ago. Its influence on our culture helped spur the decades-long backlash against the artistic freedoms it pioneered. Edited January 13 by chasfh Quote
oblong Posted January 13 Posted January 13 I think All in the Family could still get made today. Archie was the punchline. It was written liberals. You can quibble whether it would be on broadcast TV rather than a cable network but Fox shows Family Guy. But the 70's had a lot of shows that tackled issues that we take for granted today, like women in the work force, divorce, etc. It's not that we aren't allowed to make those shows today it's that we don't need them as much and the media landscape changed so much that our nightly shows don't serve that kind of purpose anymore. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted January 13 Author Posted January 13 1942: Henry Ford received a patented plastic automobile construction. The Soy Bean Car https://www.garycrossleyford.com/blog/today-in-ford-history/henry-fords-plastic-hemp-car-january-13th-1942/ Quote The use of plastic in car construction was a novel idea at the time, and Ford saw it as a way to make vehicles that were lighter and more fuel efficient. The panels of the Hemp Body car were only a quarter of an inch thick, and the entire vehicle was 30% lighter than a traditional metal car.on January 13th, 1942 Unfortunately, the prototype for the Hemp Body car was never put into production due to the onset of World War II. All automobile production in the United States was curtailed significantly during the war, and Ford’s plastic car experiment was put on hold. Eventually, the prototype was destroyed, and the project was abandoned. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted January 13 Author Posted January 13 13 JANUARY 1775, DARIEN, GEORGIA: With Georgia participating in neither the First Continental Congress nor the nonimportation movement, residents of St. Andrew’s Parish pass resolutions in support of both, as well as a resolution expressing their “abhorrence” of slavery. To show a feeling of “general philanthropy for all mankind, of whatever climate, language or complexion,” they condemn “a practice founded in injustice and cruelty” and promise to work for its abolition “upon the most safe and equitable footing for the masters and themselves.” https://bsky.app/profile/revwar250.bsky.social/post/3lfnlys642p2r 1 Quote
Screwball Posted January 14 Posted January 14 3 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: 1942: Henry Ford received a patented plastic automobile construction. The Soy Bean Car https://www.garycrossleyford.com/blog/today-in-ford-history/henry-fords-plastic-hemp-car-january-13th-1942/ Thanks for this. Interesting. Plastic, what a concept at the time. Plastic is oil related and intensive. Times have changed. Hemp is a great thing. Quote
chasfh Posted January 14 Posted January 14 19 hours ago, oblong said: I think All in the Family could still get made today. Archie was the punchline. It was written liberals. You can quibble whether it would be on broadcast TV rather than a cable network but Fox shows Family Guy. But the 70's had a lot of shows that tackled issues that we take for granted today, like women in the work force, divorce, etc. It's not that we aren't allowed to make those shows today it's that we don't need them as much and the media landscape changed so much that our nightly shows don't serve that kind of purpose anymore. Yes, this is true, and I was assuming broadcast networks. The recent show closest to the All in the Family aesthetic I can think of I think of is the Carmichael Show, which ran on NBC for a couple years in the mid-2010s. Fantastic show that I believe should have gotten more attention at the time. Perhaps had they waited a few years until Trump, it would have. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Carmichael_Show Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 (edited) 21 hours ago, oblong said: I think All in the Family could still get made today. Archie was the punchline. It was written liberals. You can quibble whether it would be on broadcast TV rather than a cable network but Fox shows Family Guy. But the 70's had a lot of shows that tackled issues that we take for granted today, like women in the work force, divorce, etc. It's not that we aren't allowed to make those shows today it's that we don't need them as much and the media landscape changed so much that our nightly shows don't serve that kind of purpose anymore. I don't think the topics would have been an issue, it would be the caricatures like George Jefferson. And while liberals have always claimed AITF as an argument for their side, Lear always played a double game in the scripts. I lived in a household with a conservative older male and he (and his buds) always thought Archie was continuing to win the day in every way. You will note that while Archie was supposedly the punchline to the libs, it was was libs in the show who tended to be either unattractive (Reiner), brainless (Gloria) or obnoxious (Maude). The subtexts were no accident because conservatives also buy soap. Edited January 14 by gehringer_2 1 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted January 14 Author Posted January 14 1784 The Continental Congress ratifies the Treaty of Paris https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/continental-congress-ratifies-the-treaty-of-paris Quote On January 14, 1784, the Continental Congress ratifies the Treaty of Paris, ending the War for Independence. In the document, which was known as the Second Treaty of Paris because the Treaty of Paris was also the name of the agreement that had ended the Seven Years’ War in 1763, Britain officially agreed to recognize the independence of its 13 former colonies as the new United States of America. Quote
oblong Posted January 14 Posted January 14 6 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: I don't think the topics would have been an issue, it would be the caricatures like George Jefferson. And while liberals have always claimed AITF as an argument for their side, Lear always played a double game in the scripts. I lived in a household with a conservative older male and he (and his buds) always thought Archie was continuing to win the day in every way. You will note that while Archie was supposedly the punchline to the libs, it was was libs in the show who tended to be either unattractive (Reiner), brainless (Gloria) or obnoxious (Maude). The subtexts were no accident because conservatives also buy soap. But Archie had his moments too. He’d mispronounce words and mix things up. After all it was a comedy not a Sorkin-esque drama. I should have said Archie was a punchline not the punchline. That said I can’t say I was a prodigious watcher. I was born in ‘73. My dad was more of a Fred Sanford guy. A lot of what I know is from books and that CNN documentary series. Quote
smr-nj Posted January 14 Posted January 14 The Continental Congress ratified the Treaty of Paris on January 14, 1784, officially establishing the United States as an independent and sovereign nation. (….I guess I will just add that it was fun while it lasted) 2 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 4 minutes ago, oblong said: But Archie had his moments too. He’d mispronounce words and mix things up. After all it was a comedy not a Sorkin-esque drama. I should have said Archie was a punchline not the punchline. That said I can’t say I was a prodigious watcher. I was born in ‘73. My dad was more of a Fred Sanford guy. A lot of what I know is from books and that CNN documentary series. No doubt. But I think you can make a connection between the left's embrace of AITF as a platform for liberalism being a missed or at least incomplete understanding, with today's liberal misunderstanding of the Trump voter. Archie may have lost the script battles in ATIF, but he was exactly the early representation of and hero to the white male frustrated by a culture that was leaving him behind regardless of whether he was winning or losing, and the conservative viewer identified with his sense of frustration and even with his losses in those cultural battles. Archie was still the 'sane' one among all the nutty people, and that's what the left viewpoint viewer misses when they think about what the show signified to its non-left leaning viewers. And I think Lear knew this perfectly well. He was first and foremost trying to create a popular show and if he could bask in the approval of his Hollywood cohort while still winking to the silent majority that yes, they were correct, left was ditzy, he was happy to do it -- and bank the proceeds. 2 Quote
oblong Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Well said. After the 2012 election someone said the Romney campaign, and the GOP, was Mad Men set in what was then the Modern Family present. I think that was true and 12 years later we are in Archie’s world. Quote
romad1 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 they keep making All-in-the-family clones but putting Tim Allen in the lead. 1 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted January 15 Author Posted January 15 1870...The Donkey first appears as the symbol of the Democratic Party https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/first-appearance-of-the-democratic-donkey Quote On January 15, 1870, the first recorded use of a donkey to represent the Democratic Party appears in Harper’s Weekly. Drawn by political illustrator Thomas Nast, the cartoon is entitled “A Live Jackass Kicking a Dead Lion.” The jackass (donkey) is tagged “Copperhead Papers,” referring to the Democrat-dominated newspapers of the South, and the dead lion represents the late Edwin McMasters Stanton, President Abraham Lincoln’s secretary of war during the final three years of the Civil War. In the background is an eagle perched on a rock, representing the postwar federal domination in the South, and in the far background is the U.S. Capitol. 1 Quote
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