Hongbit Posted February 6 Posted February 6 18 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: One of the best QB’s in the history of the MAC. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted February 6 Posted February 6 On 2/3/2025 at 12:09 PM, Motown Bombers said: If the Lions had the cap space, I would trade a 6th for Garrett, Watson and a pair of 1st round picks. As it stands, I think it will be too rich for the Lions blood. It would also prevent the Lions from extending some of their own players. I was thinking this myself. Is there a world where you could get Garrett for minimal draft capital by taking on Watson's contract? It seems the cap number doesn't quite work. That's the ugliest and worst contract in sports history, save for many Bobby Bonilla. So I'm not sure I'd do it even if the numbers added up. 1 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted February 6 Posted February 6 3 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: I was thinking this myself. Is there a world where you could get Garrett for minimal draft capital by taking on Watson's contract? It seems the cap number doesn't quite work. That's the ugliest and worst contract in sports history, save for many Bobby Bonilla. So I'm not sure I'd do it even if the numbers added up. Looking at Watson's contract, it's literally impossible to move him. He has a $72 million cap hit this year. His dead cap hit would be $172 million. Cleveland would be $99 million over the cap if they moved Watson. It's staggering how bad the contract is. Quote
Hongbit Posted February 7 Posted February 7 (edited) Bears Twitter loves it. Edited February 7 by Hongbit Quote
Sports_Freak Posted February 7 Posted February 7 16 minutes ago, Hongbit said: Bears Twitter loves it. Wait until he calls a flea flicker and Williams hold the ball for 5 seconds before getting sacked. <stupid coach, fire him> Quote
Motown Bombers Posted February 7 Posted February 7 O’Connell won coach of the year. He’s 1-5 against Campbell and hasn’t beaten hIm in over two years. 1 Quote
Jason_R Posted February 11 Posted February 11 There is a lot of talk about the Lions having a short Super Bowl window. But I look at Howie Roseman and see a guy who has been in Philly for 25 years, 15 as GM. He's averaged just under 10 wins a season. He has two Super Bowl wins and another Super Bowl appearance mixed in with nine playoff appearances. I have a sense that Brad Holmes can acquire talent and manage a roster at this level over an extended period of time. As badly as Goff played against Washington, he is head and shoulders above the rotating cast of QBs they've had in Philly over Roseman's tenure, and should be the starting QB in Detroit for another five years. The building blocks are in place on the offensive side of the ball, and are really in place defensively too, without the horrible injury luck we faced. It was a disappointing end to the season, but this core will be competitive for a few more years, and Holmes has given us reason to believe there will always be a solid pipeline of talent to replenish the core. Quote
Hongbit Posted February 11 Posted February 11 In hindsight, Brad winning executive of the year over Roseman is a lot like the O’Connell over Dan situation. Quote
Jimbo Posted February 11 Author Posted February 11 This team will be competitive for years. There will be years where we don't win the division and barely make the playoffs (or miss the playoffs) although I don't see this team going back to SOL. We finally have competent upper management. I am thinking if Goff can't get us to the Superbowl in the next 2-3 years, there is a good chance we will be looking for someone else. Hopefully we can match what Philly did the last two years. They collapsed last year and then won it this year. Quote
Jason_R Posted February 11 Posted February 11 9 hours ago, Hongbit said: In hindsight, Brad winning executive of the year over Roseman is a lot like the O’Connell over Dan situation. I don't know... If the Eagles had Josh Sweat, Jalen Carter, Darius Slay, Nakobe Dean, and two of each of their backups on the IR, and the Lions did not have Hutch, McNeil, Davis, Barnes, and their backups on IR, the NFL would be having a very different conversation. Quote
Hongbit Posted February 11 Posted February 11 Quinyon Mitchell was one of the best picks of the 1st round in the draft. Cooper DeJean was one of the best 2nd rounders. They killed it in this draft. He made the best two free agent signings in the league in Barkley and Baun. He won the Super Bowl. A season doesn’t get any better than that for an executive. It’s like a perfect passer rating. Quote
Jason_R Posted February 11 Posted February 11 Totally agree. He deserves the parade. And yet, if Philly had the injury luck that Detroit had, it's a different conversation. 1 Quote
Jimbo Posted February 11 Author Posted February 11 1 hour ago, Hongbit said: Quinyon Mitchell was one of the best picks of the 1st round in the draft. Cooper DeJean was one of the best 2nd rounders. They killed it in this draft. He made the best two free agent signings in the league in Barkley and Baun. He won the Super Bowl. A season doesn’t get any better than that for an executive. It’s like a perfect passer rating. Philly had a great draft. I think its pretty safe to say that 2024 was Detroit's worst draft in the Holmes era. Still think this draft will look a lot better down the road than it looks right now. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted February 11 Posted February 11 (edited) GM of the year needs to be awarded retroactively. No one had Holmes as the top GM in 2021, but in that offseason he acquired Goff and drafted Sewell, St Brown, McNeil, Barnes, Melifonwu, and signed Anzalone and Raymond who are still on the team. Bill Belichick won the 2021 executive of the year. He lasted two more years and left the Patriots with one of the worst rosters in the league. Edited February 11 by Motown Bombers Quote
KL2 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 12 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: GM of the year needs to be awarded retroactively. No one had Holmes as the top GM in 2021, but in that offseason he acquired Goff and drafted Sewell, St Brown, McNeil, Barnes, Melifonwu, and signed Anzalone and Raymond who are still on the team. Bill Belichick won the 2021 executive of the year. He lasted two more years and left the Patriots with one of the worst rosters in the league. It's executive of the YEAR not who built up his franchise by getting the best guys for the future. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted February 12 Posted February 12 10 hours ago, KL2 said: It's executive of the YEAR not who built up his franchise by getting the best guys for the future. Exactly. In 2021, that would have been Holmes. The Lions only won 3 games so he wasn't even considered. We didn't know Holmes got the best guys for the future until 3-4 years later. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted February 12 Posted February 12 A lot of people have dreams of Garrett or Crosby, but I would look at someone like Josh Sweat. If the Eagles let him hit free agency, he would be a good fit. He's usually good for 6–8 sacks but does get a lot of pressure. He had 54 pressures, which led the Eagles, who have a good defensive line. He has the size the Lions like and is solid against the run. He won't cost nearly as much as Garrett or Crosby. The Lions have an elite pass rusher. Sure, two is better than one, but Sweat would make for a good number two, especially since he would get a lot of 1:1 with Hutchinson on the field. The Lions could also rework the contract of Za'Darius Smith, and along with Paschal, would have a nice rotation. 1 Quote
RandyMarsh Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Yeah I'd much rather get somebody like Sweat than trade the house for Garrett or Crosby. I don't necessarily feel you need to have 2 elite DEs to cause havoc on the lines, sure if cost wasn't an issue you'd love to have it but I think a dependable player(s) on one side and an elite guy on the other can cause more than enough disruption. Also I'm of the belief that you are better served getting those bull rushers on the interior against today's QBs, cause unless you get there immediately QBs nowadays are mobile enough where they will just step up into the pocket and find a lane to take off or throw from. When you collapse the pocket from within that takes that option away. So if I were to invest in the Dline I'd rather get a premium pass rusher from the interior position. 1 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted February 12 Posted February 12 I also think we sell Za'Darius short. He did have 10 sacks and 63 pressures which was 10th among edge rushers. His age is a concern and he's no longer a number one, but if he repeats that production with a healthy Hutchinson, that would be a good pass rush. You could draft a pass rusher to phase in and take over for Smith after this season. Quote
Jason_R Posted February 13 Posted February 13 The DL was holding it together until McNeil went down. It wouldn’t surprise me if they double-dip on the DL with their first and second round picks. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted February 13 Posted February 13 7 hours ago, Jason_R said: The DL was holding it together until McNeil went down. It wouldn’t surprise me if they double-dip on the DL with their first and second round picks. It's Holmes. He'll do something that nobody sees coming. Very unpredictable. Quote
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