Deleterious Posted January 27 Posted January 27 Cleveland has lost 3 in a row. Harris is questionable. Okoro, Wade, and LeVert are out for Cleveland. Quote
Deleterious Posted January 27 Posted January 27 Heads up for those living out of town. You should be able to watch this one. Quote
Deleterious Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Less than 9 minutes left in the game and only Cade and Beasley are in double digits. Duren just hit 10 as I typed this. Quote
Deleterious Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Bad game from Cade. But the guy had zero help once again. Duren was the only other starter that had double digit points. Combined, the 4 starters scored 22 points. Thompson didn't score at all. Nobody other than Cade had 20 points. 1 Quote
Deleterious Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Pistons team stats when Cade is on and off the floor. This is per/100 possessions so pace is removed. I included before and after Ivey got injured. The offense really struggles now that Ivey isn't around to play when Cade is off the court. Looks like they lose almost all their points at the free throw line. A lot less attempts/makes with Ivey no longer around. Quote
Betrayer Posted January 28 Posted January 28 15 hours ago, Deleterious said: Pistons team stats when Cade is on and off the floor. This is per/100 possessions so pace is removed. I included before and after Ivey got injured. The offense really struggles now that Ivey isn't around to play when Cade is off the court. Looks like they lose almost all their points at the free throw line. A lot less attempts/makes with Ivey no longer around. So, they're a lot better without Ivey when Cade is on the court (the defensive rating numbers back this up as well). But when Cade is not on the court, they're absolutely garbage offensively without Ivey. Makes sense since they don't have any other ballhandlers when Cade gets off the court, but does that speak to Ivey's effectiveness or is it just the Fontecchio thing from last year where even a decent option looks great on a team devoid of other options. Either way, it just adds fuel to my argument that I don't want to pay Ivey starter (or especially #2 option) money. It's too bad he got hurt because he could have been a really nice asset in a trade this year. 1 Quote
Deleterious Posted January 29 Posted January 29 2 hours ago, Betrayer said: So, they're a lot better without Ivey when Cade is on the court (the defensive rating numbers back this up as well). But when Cade is not on the court, they're absolutely garbage offensively without Ivey. Makes sense since they don't have any other ballhandlers when Cade gets off the court, but does that speak to Ivey's effectiveness or is it just the Fontecchio thing from last year where even a decent option looks great on a team devoid of other options. Either way, it just adds fuel to my argument that I don't want to pay Ivey starter (or especially #2 option) money. It's too bad he got hurt because he could have been a really nice asset in a trade this year. Well, those numbers are not great to draw those conclusions. The Cade on before numbers include Ivey on and off the court. We don't know where the struggle was. Here are numbers, all before the injury, that are strictly Cade/Ivey playing together or Cade with Ivey off the floor. So better on offense with him on. Much better on defense with him off. Pretty much meets the eye test. As far as if they say he is a second star or not? I don't know. I looked at OKC. The numbers with SGA on and Williams off are absurd. Williams is easily a #2 star. He might make all defense and all nba this season. And those numbers make it look like OKC should just cut him. So I don't know. 1 Quote
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