buddha Posted February 5 Posted February 5 i feel like duren had five a few days ago against the bulls. Quote
Deleterious Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 Haliburton played 25 minutes tonight and had 0 points. Quote
Betrayer Posted February 5 Posted February 5 14 hours ago, Deleterious said: All of the counting stat records are going to continue to be broken by this era of defense-less basketball. Unless the NBA changes the rules to rebalance the game, all of these "record breaking" moments will continue to happen and they'll continue to mean little to nothing. It's great for hype and so they've started giving us records based upon the "Play-by-play era" because that covers the lowest scoring era. Starting in 1997 means you can break records every day when the average team scored 95.6 in 1997 and now it's 113. That's an 18% increase. In fact, you'd have to go back to the late 60s to find a year where scoring was (just a touch) higher than it is now. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted February 6 Posted February 6 22 hours ago, Betrayer said: All of the counting stat records are going to continue to be broken by this era of defense-less basketball. Unless the NBA changes the rules to rebalance the game, all of these "record breaking" moments will continue to happen and they'll continue to mean little to nothing. It's great for hype and so they've started giving us records based upon the "Play-by-play era" because that covers the lowest scoring era. Starting in 1997 means you can break records every day when the average team scored 95.6 in 1997 and now it's 113. That's an 18% increase. In fact, you'd have to go back to the late 60s to find a year where scoring was (just a touch) higher than it is now. I know this isn't a popular opinion, but I miss the 00's when teams could play defense. I was totally fine seeing a team score 56 points for the entire game in the playoffs. 1 Quote
Betrayer Posted February 6 Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said: I know this isn't a popular opinion, but I miss the 00's when teams could play defense. I was totally fine seeing a team score 56 points for the entire game in the playoffs. I agree. But even if they took a more balanced approach, it would be better than what we have now. It wouldn't be that hard to accomplish either: 1. Allow defensive players the right to their space on the court - No more offensive players initiating contact and getting to the free throw line. At best it's a no-call, at worst an offensive foul instead of a defensive foul. 2. Eliminate the moving screens on every play. 3. Make the three point line a fixed length - that means eliminating the corner three. Do that and every team doesn't have to play the same brand of basketball where every player has to be able to space the court and chuck threes. It also gives defensive oriented teams a chance. Quote
buddha Posted February 6 Posted February 6 37 minutes ago, Betrayer said: I agree. But even if they took a more balanced approach, it would be better than what we have now. It wouldn't be that hard to accomplish either: 1. Allow defensive players the right to their space on the court - No more offensive players initiating contact and getting to the free throw line. At best it's a no-call, at worst an offensive foul instead of a defensive foul. 2. Eliminate the moving screens on every play. 3. Make the three point line a fixed length - that means eliminating the corner three. Do that and every team doesn't have to play the same brand of basketball where every player has to be able to space the court and chuck threes. It also gives defensive oriented teams a chance. what about shrinking the paint? Quote
Hongbit Posted February 6 Posted February 6 The amount of wide open 3’s allowed in an NBA game is ridiculous. Every game I watch the same thing happens time and time again. Guard drives from behind the 3 point line. Opposite guard or wing jumps in to help and leaves an absolutely wide open 3 look for the other team. Too much help defense is giving up a 2’s for a 3. It’s bad math. If they let the player drive without a double, 9 out of 10 the worst they give up is an easy 2. Maybe the big slides over and alters the shot or at least clogs a passing lane making lob or pass more difficult but still only for a two. Rule changes won’t matter much if defensive philosophies in the league don’t change. Quote
Betrayer Posted February 6 Posted February 6 36 minutes ago, Hongbit said: The amount of wide open 3’s allowed in an NBA game is ridiculous. Every game I watch the same thing happens time and time again. Guard drives from behind the 3 point line. Opposite guard or wing jumps in to help and leaves an absolutely wide open 3 look for the other team. Too much help defense is giving up a 2’s for a 3. It’s bad math. If they let the player drive without a double, 9 out of 10 the worst they give up is an easy 2. Maybe the big slides over and alters the shot or at least clogs a passing lane making lob or pass more difficult but still only for a two. Rule changes won’t matter much if defensive philosophies in the league don’t change. That's because it's nearly impossible to stay in front and defend someone when they have all the rules in their favor. So you either give up a wide open layup, which is the highest percentage shot in the game, or you rotate and try to cover shooters after cutting off the drive. But with the corner three you can't move fast enough to cover every part of the court. All three of the things I posted above would alleviate this issue. Defenders would have the right to defend and not worry about the player initiating contact also getting the call. Illegal moving screens wouldn't be allowed to create the space they do today for offensive players to gain an advantage on drives. And finally, eliminating the corner three reduces some of the spacing, allowing defenses to recover more easily and actually defend. Quote
Betrayer Posted February 6 Posted February 6 1 hour ago, buddha said: what about shrinking the paint? Genuinely curious - what would that accomplish? The 3-second rule is all I can think of, but I'm not sure camping in the paint against a league full of shooters is going to help. Quote
Hongbit Posted February 6 Posted February 6 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Betrayer said: That's because it's nearly impossible to stay in front and defend someone when they have all the rules in their favor. So you either give up a wide open layup, which is the highest percentage shot in the game, or you rotate and try to cover shooters after cutting off the drive. But with the corner three you can't move fast enough to cover every part of the court. All three of the things I posted above would alleviate this issue. Defenders would have the right to defend and not worry about the player initiating contact also getting the call. Illegal moving screens wouldn't be allowed to create the space they do today for offensive players to gain an advantage on drives. And finally, eliminating the corner three reduces some of the spacing, allowing defenses to recover more easily and actually defend. That makes sense. I wasn’t counting on an uncontested 3 every time. The big could stand their ground and force a decision that isnt pass to a wide open 3. I do see your point though. I like pushing the 3 line back a bit and removing the corner 3 would solve a bunch of problems. In theory, I’d love for them to remove the restricted area and give defenders a better chance at the rim but there is a safety issue there that would be a real issue and we’d see many more injuries. Edited February 6 by Hongbit Quote
buddha Posted February 6 Posted February 6 20 minutes ago, Betrayer said: Genuinely curious - what would that accomplish? The 3-second rule is all I can think of, but I'm not sure camping in the paint against a league full of shooters is going to help. bring the post up big man back into the game? just a thought. Quote
Betrayer Posted February 6 Posted February 6 28 minutes ago, buddha said: bring the post up big man back into the game? just a thought. I'd love to see that if only to give teams more ways to compete. But the reason it disappeared is because having that big man in the lane hurts the spacing and is not as efficient as driving and kicking to 4 shooters every time. You have to solve that problem first and then teams will start to look for other ways to score including post-ups and mid-range shots. Quote
Betrayer Posted February 7 Posted February 7 All Star teams got picked and they did a terrible job. Cade is on a team full of young guards, while Chuck picked all MVPs, and Shaq picked the old guard. It'll be a Shaq vs Chuck final, which I suppose is probably what they wanted anyway. Quote
Hongbit Posted February 7 Posted February 7 Haha. I can’t stand Perk. No idea how he’s been able to stay on TV this long. 1 Quote
Betrayer Posted February 7 Posted February 7 51 minutes ago, Hongbit said: Haha. I can’t stand Perk. No idea how he’s been able to stay on TV this long. ESPN's coverage is terrible and Perk might be the worst of them (though there are several contenders for that spot). I guess he's leading in that category. Quote
Deleterious Posted February 7 Author Posted February 7 Meanwhile, Zach Lowe still doesn't have a job and I have to read his thoughts on Instagram. Quote
Deleterious Posted February 7 Author Posted February 7 I'm shocked teams are interested in Ben Simmons after he gets bought out. Quote
Deleterious Posted February 7 Author Posted February 7 He should have been moved if a first was offered. Quote
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