mtutiger Posted February 21 Posted February 21 On 2/21/2025 at 1:10 AM, pfife said: Sargent is definitely left but a good reporter. He used to do the Plum Line for Washington Post. Expand Yeah, Sargent has a POV but is a lot more self aware of it than most from his crowd. Quote
pfife Posted February 21 Posted February 21 I havent listened to it since election but his pod was in my daily rotation. Quote
mtutiger Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Certain folks who are simps for DOGE will never admit it, but having to fire and then track down and rehire nuclear safety experts cannot be described any other way than being an abject failure. Quote
Tigerbomb13 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 On 2/21/2025 at 2:57 PM, mtutiger said: Certain folks who are simps for DOGE will never admit it, but having to fire and then track down and rehire nuclear safety experts cannot be described any other way than being an abject failure. Expand Boom boom boss man involved 1 Quote
Tigermojo Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) On 2/21/2025 at 2:57 PM, mtutiger said: Certain folks who are simps for DOGE will never admit it, but having to fire and then track down and rehire nuclear safety experts cannot be described any other way than being an abject failure. Expand Everything seems inefficient to people who don't understand how something works. Gutting government agencies on perception alone could end up costing many lives and then all the procedures and red tape will have to be put back in place. There are reasons for government and Musk and Trump shouting corruption over everything tells me more about them. Edited February 21 by Tigermojo Quote
chasfh Posted February 21 Posted February 21 On 2/21/2025 at 2:57 PM, mtutiger said: Certain folks who are simps for DOGE will never admit it, but having to fire and then track down and rehire nuclear safety experts cannot be described any other way than being an abject failure. Expand Yeah, and besides, who needs useless "administrative and clerical" personnel on staff, anyway? These college-educated nuclear nimrods can process their own paperwork, manage and maintain their own records and filing systems, copy and mail and fax their own documents, sort and distribute their own mail, and greet visitors and handle reception desk duties on their own. Elitist eggheaded jerks, amirite? Quote
Tigermojo Posted February 21 Posted February 21 On 2/21/2025 at 3:22 PM, chasfh said: Yeah, and besides, who needs useless "administrative and clerical" personnel on staff, anyway? These college-educated nuclear nimrods can process their own paperwork, manage and maintain their own records and filing systems, copy and mail and fax their own documents, sort and distribute their own mail, and greet visitors and handle reception desk duties on their own. Elitist eggheaded jerks, amirite? Expand Trump needs a button to order a diet coke..... Quote
CMRivdogs Posted February 21 Posted February 21 More proof they hate the military. Especially our Draft Dodging Multiple Felon President Quote
The Ronz Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Alternate headline: DEI Hire Who Voted For Trump Grouses About Firing. Quote
romad1 Posted February 21 Author Posted February 21 Kinzinger and Tim Miller were calling it today. The centrist Tea Party that rails against the power of Elon Musk is going to have legs. The Town Halls will have an impact. Quote
Edman85 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 On 2/21/2025 at 11:23 PM, romad1 said: Kinzinger and Tim Miller were calling it today. The centrist Tea Party that rails against the power of Elon Musk is going to have legs. The Town Halls will have an impact. Expand My Congressman refuses town halls. So Facebook it is... 5 1 Quote
oblong Posted February 22 Posted February 22 I’ve heard that phone calls are effective. My people are all democrats. Quote
Edman85 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 On 2/22/2025 at 1:28 AM, oblong said: I’ve heard that phone calls are effective. My people are all democrats. Expand I have heard hand-written letters are effective, but that was pre-MAGA invasion. Now I think the only thing effective is a 6 figure check, or the threat of withholding it. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted February 22 Posted February 22 I've written to John James. No response. I've been reluctant to call because I'm likely to tell the person on the other end to **** themselves with broken glass. Quote
romad1 Posted February 22 Author Posted February 22 The spectacle of a town hall that goes bad will quickly turn to refusing to do town halls. Refusing to do town halls means they lose touch with the voter. That's what will cost them their seats. Elon's money is a powerful weapon but he also wasn't elected and he's ruining people's lives. 1 1 Quote
chasfh Posted February 22 Posted February 22 On 2/21/2025 at 11:23 PM, romad1 said: Kinzinger and Tim Miller were calling it today. The centrist Tea Party that rails against the power of Elon Musk is going to have legs. The Town Halls will have an impact. Expand Perhaps not as much as if people were getting news on X about it. Quote
chasfh Posted February 22 Posted February 22 On 2/22/2025 at 2:19 AM, romad1 said: The spectacle of a town hall that goes bad will quickly turn to refusing to do town halls. Refusing to do town halls means they lose touch with the voter. That's what will cost them their seats. Elon's money is a powerful weapon but he also wasn't elected and he's ruining people's lives. Expand Do most congressional reps do town halls? I had to do a search whether mine has done any, and she did one, out in Wheaton, in August 2023. Nothing on the calendar coming up. A daughter of Guatemalan immigrants doing a town hall out in Wheaton. I wonder how that went. Quote
romad1 Posted February 22 Author Posted February 22 On 2/22/2025 at 2:02 PM, chasfh said: Do most congressional reps do town halls? I had to do a search whether mine has done any, and she did one, out in Wheaton, in August 2023. Nothing on the calendar coming up. A daughter of Guatemalan immigrants doing a town hall out in Wheaton. I wonder how that went. Expand the ones in competitive districts that don't do them won't last long. Quote
chasfh Posted February 22 Posted February 22 On 2/22/2025 at 2:05 PM, romad1 said: the ones in competitive districts that don't do them won't last long. Expand Agree. Too bad there are hardly any competitive distrcits. Quote
romad1 Posted February 22 Author Posted February 22 On 2/22/2025 at 2:11 PM, chasfh said: Agree. Too bad there are hardly any competitive distrcits. Expand Per the poli sci guys the real wave elections come once every 15 years and will sweep away a lot of people not normally seen as marginal. The people who are able to stem the tide in those are the ones who keep their fingers on the pulse of their local electorates. Now, Elon can probably spend and carpet bomb campaigns in an unfettered way now that he's got control of the Federal Treasury for his own ends. Hard to measure the effects of Elonunism. Quote
LaceyLou Posted February 22 Posted February 22 On 2/22/2025 at 2:02 PM, chasfh said: Do most congressional reps do town halls? I had to do a search whether mine has done any, and she did one, out in Wheaton, in August 2023. Nothing on the calendar coming up. A daughter of Guatemalan immigrants doing a town hall out in Wheaton. I wonder how that went. Expand My previous rep (Lynch) has always done a lot of town halls-including virtual ones. My current one (Pressley) has a lot of exposure without doing a lot of them-she's more likely to show up at local protests. Quote
mtutiger Posted February 22 Posted February 22 On 2/22/2025 at 2:02 PM, chasfh said: Do most congressional reps do town halls? I had to do a search whether mine has done any, and she did one, out in Wheaton, in August 2023. Nothing on the calendar coming up. A daughter of Guatemalan immigrants doing a town hall out in Wheaton. I wonder how that went. Expand LaHood (my critter) doesn't do them, but honestly wouldn't surprise me if he got a similar reception to some of these guys if he did one... Even if it were in a place like Princeton or Streator, the freezes on USDA programs and attacks on Medicaid are poison for farmers Quote
mtutiger Posted February 22 Posted February 22 (edited) On 2/22/2025 at 3:24 PM, romad1 said: Per the poli sci guys the real wave elections come once every 15 years and will sweep away a lot of people not normally seen as marginal. The people who are able to stem the tide in those are the ones who keep their fingers on the pulse of their local electorates. Now, Elon can probably spend and carpet bomb campaigns in an unfettered way now that he's got control of the Federal Treasury for his own ends. Hard to measure the effects of Elonunism. Expand I've been beating this drum for a while, but Trump/Musk are touching a lot of third rails with his cuts. It was inevitable that, sooner or later, people were going to notice and be pissed off. Cliff Bentz' town hall, held in LaGrande, OR (in a county won by Trump 68-31ish), is probably the biggest red flag to me out of all the ones I've seen reported. But it makes sense when you consider that it's an agricultural area and an area with a large US Forest Service presence (the feds own something like 40-45% of land in Union County, OR)... taking a meat cleaver to federal jobs in in the American west in particular, where so many jobs are tied to the federal government, is just really terrible politics (on top of being devastating to these communities) Trump has always gotten a lot of rope because of the good economy in 2017-2019. And just generally because people assumed he wouldn't do a lot of the extreme stuff he campaigned on. But he and Elon are doing a great deal to unravel that goodwill as we speak. Edited February 22 by mtutiger Quote
mtutiger Posted February 22 Posted February 22 On 2/22/2025 at 3:24 PM, romad1 said: Per the poli sci guys the real wave elections come once every 15 years and will sweep away a lot of people not normally seen as marginal. The people who are able to stem the tide in those are the ones who keep their fingers on the pulse of their local electorates. Now, Elon can probably spend and carpet bomb campaigns in an unfettered way now that he's got control of the Federal Treasury for his own ends. Hard to measure the effects of Elonunism. Expand I would add that history has shown that farmers in particular, despite being a really conservative demographic, can be responsive to economic pain... George H.W. Bush's election in 1988 is a good example. While he won and won big over Dukakis nationally, Dukakis made some decent sized gains in Rural Iowa, Illinois, Wisconsin, etc. due to the 1980s farm crisis. Quote
Tiger337 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 On 2/22/2025 at 4:18 PM, mtutiger said: I would add that history has shown that farmers in particular, despite being a really conservative demographic, can be responsive to economic pain... George H.W. Bush's election in 1988 is a good example. While he won and won big over Dukakis nationally, Dukakis made some decent sized gains in Rural Iowa, Illinois, Wisconsin, etc. due to the 1980s farm crisis. Expand I would guess that when your livelihood is the earth and outdoors, you don't have a great deal of patience for rhetoric. Quote
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