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5 hours ago, Hongbit said:

President Musk has already started to tip their hand in his Twitter replies.  

Anyone that questions his processes, supports waste and corruption in government.   It doesn’t matter if it’s constitutional or not.  Ends justify the means, the legality of it be damned.  

Exactly what all those veterans fought for, died for, and drank coffee through a sock for.

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20 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Exactly what all those veterans fought for, died for, and drank coffee through a sock for.

"You know Willie, when I get home from this war what I'm going to do?"

"What, Joe?"

"Troll a Detroit Sports forum"

Willie_and_Joe.jpg

 

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On 2/8/2025 at 9:42 PM, mtutiger said:

I have no illusions that anything moving forward will be easy.

My point is that Klein is spot on that from a public opinion standpoint he stands to lose from these early moves.

Do all the unpopular stuff you think need to do right up front and people will be made but will forget about it quickly enough. Advice that goes all the way back to Machiavelli.

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10 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

So there was no commercial after all. But us veterans were used like agent orange or burn pits by the left…. On par with them yet again. 

Pure projection

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22 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

But if WCF went to work for POTUS, he could have buried any reports of the Pinto fires. That's one of the reasons Muck sided with a career criminal. A convicted felon and an illegal immigrant are running this country.

WCF wasn't a nazi-lover. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Remember, WCF was allowed to buy the Lions to keep him out of the family business.

as I recall, the Goon King Harry Bennett was fueling Henry sr's worst impulses which gave Bennett a lot of power.  Hank 2 came in and put an end to that. 

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Just now, Sports_Freak said:

True. And he probably didn't try to bury the Pinto fire reports. But I'm sure Musk is trying to bury the Tesla reports. 

to the extent that he has exposed himself to charges of conflict of interest wrt his meddling in the data sets of the federal government. 

Posted (edited)
29 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

True. And he probably didn't try to bury the Pinto fire reports. But I'm sure Musk is trying to bury the Tesla reports. 

fwiw…

From my readings regarding the Pinto’s design and engineering, and the subsequent fires/deaths, Ford, as a company, was well aware of the dangers and risks involved with putting this car on the road. There have been a couple of books written on this specifically. The Ford Company was aware of the risks associated with the design of the back of the car. Internally the company knew the obvious risks. These risks were downplayed and the company literally made a conscious decision to market the car and roll the dice on what might, or might not, happen when rear ended from behind. They had decided the costs of correcting the flawed design was more than they wanted to spend. So they continued to build and sell these ticking time bombs with full realization of what could happen. The results of this decision were deadly. 
I can’t find it now but there was a good article I pulled up not too long ago regarding this exact topic. I can’t find it now but the reporter was Lee Strobel. I think he worked for one of the Detroit papers at the time but can’t swear to that. 

 

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38 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

True. And he probably didn't try to bury the Pinto fire reports. But I'm sure Musk is trying to bury the Tesla reports. 

Should note that WCF's role at FoMoCo was never comparable to Musk's at Tesla. The operation at Ford was in Henry II's hands in the Pinto era. In fact Lee Iacocca was running Ford division during Pinto development, and was the main force pushing Ford to build smaller more efficient cars. 

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16 minutes ago, 1776 said:

fwiw…

From my readings regarding the Pinto’s design and engineering, and the subsequent fires/deaths, Ford, as a company, was well aware of the dangers and risks involved with putting this car on the road. There have been a couple of books written on this specifically. The Ford Company was aware of the risks associated with the design of the back of the car. Internally the company knew the obvious risks. These risks were downplayed and the company literally made a conscious decision to market the car and roll the dice on what might, or might not, happen when rear ended from behind. They had decided the costs of correcting the flawed design was more than they wanted to spend. So they continued to build and sell these ticking time bombs with full realization of what could happen. The results of this decision were deadly. 
I can’t find it now but there was a good article I pulled up not too long ago regarding this exact topic. I can’t find it now but the reporter was Lee Strobel. I think he worked for one of the Detroit papers at the time but can’t swear to that. 

 

Lee Strobel worked for the Chicago Tribune and did write a book on the Pinto trial. 
I remember him from our brief time attending Willow Creek Church in the Chicago suburbs where he was among the pastors.

As an aside, I owned two Pintos. Fortunately neither one was involved in an accident. They did provide relatively cheap, dependable transportation in the early and mid 70s.

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