Tigermojo Posted March 14 Posted March 14 51 minutes ago, romad1 said: First time reposting a mastodon post. If anyone wants to re-litigate World War 2 and what happened to Germany and Japan as a result thereof. From my optic: it appears that every one of the Nazi companies value was reduced to zero and control was taken over by the conquering allies. For the Japanese it was a different matter but they all benefited from Allied occupation and reorganization. How dare people state facts when they are trying to live blissfully in ignorance. I love how Musk's father calls him a bad parent. Clearly something went wrong for us to arrive at this point. No Musk is going to be declared father of the year. Quote
romad1 Posted March 14 Author Posted March 14 32 minutes ago, Tigermojo said: How dare people state facts when they are trying to live blissfully in ignorance. I love how Musk's father calls him a bad parent. Clearly something went wrong for us to arrive at this point. No Musk is going to be declared father of the year. Does Musk suggest that his Nazi's corporate structure be reduced to zero value through bombing and invasion? Quote
Tigermojo Posted March 14 Posted March 14 44 minutes ago, romad1 said: Does Musk suggest that his Nazi's corporate structure be reduced to zero value through bombing and invasion? I think that's kind of starting to happen already with Molotov cocktails, gunshots and prank callers. Quote
LaceyLou Posted March 14 Posted March 14 On 3/13/2025 at 7:40 AM, romad1 said: speaking of the asshole Wait, so all people have to do is convince others to commit murder instead of doing it themselves, and their hands will be clean? Lovely. Quote
chasfh Posted March 14 Posted March 14 3 hours ago, romad1 said: First time reposting a mastodon post. If anyone wants to re-litigate World War 2 and what happened to Germany and Japan as a result thereof. From my optic: it appears that every one of the Nazi companies value was reduced to zero and control was taken over by the conquering allies. For the Japanese it was a different matter but they all benefited from Allied occupation and reorganization. It seems really unprecedented how relatively benign the American occupations of Europe and east Asia were. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 Versailles was the one lesson that the US learned well and was determined not to repeat. That one act of undeniably high international virtue bought us a ton of good will in the world that we have managed to pretty much completely squander - Vietnam, TGWOT, and now Trump. Three strikes and 'yer out. 1 Quote
romad1 Posted March 14 Author Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Versailles was the one lesson that the US learned well and was determined not to repeat. That one act of undeniably high international virtue bought us a ton of good will in the world that we have managed to pretty much completely squander - Vietnam, TGWOT, and now Trump. Three strikes and 'yer out. Munich? Quote
gehringer_2 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 (edited) 19 minutes ago, romad1 said: Munich? Not sure what aspect of 'Munich' you mean in particular. I can think of some ways we may have 'over learned' Munich if what you mean by Munich is in the sense of 'appeasement'. I would give you Vietnam, where by looking through the lens of Munich we saw Ho Chi Minh's nationalist movement in a more globalist threat context ("domino theory") than we maybe should have. Admittedly hard to put ourselves back in the ethos of 1960 though. One of the curious things about that era was that not even 20 years after the victory over Nazi tyranny, western policy intellectuals had already lost confidence that capital 'C' Communism wasn't the inevitable world outcome, that the best we could do was make a temporary space for ourselves in the "long twilight struggle" in which there was no hope of enduring victory. Edited March 14 by gehringer_2 Quote
romad1 Posted March 14 Author Posted March 14 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: Not sure what aspect of 'Munich' you mean in particular. I can think of some ways we may have 'over learned' Munich if what you mean by Munich is in the sense of 'appeasement'. I would give you Vietnam, where by looking through the lens of Munich we saw Ho Chi Minh's nationalist movement in a more globalist threat context ("domino theory") than we maybe should have. Admittedly hard to put ourselves back in the ethos of 1960 though. One of the curious things about that era was that not even 20 years after the victory over Nazi tyranny, western policy intellectuals had already lost confidence that capital 'C' Communism wasn't the inevitable world outcome, that the best we could do was make a temporary space for ourselves in the "long twilight struggle" in which there was no hope of enduring victory. a mentality prevalent in the mid-1970s when the Soviets were on the march and Western democracies were in decline. Munich is still a good lesson. You cannot appease the leopard-eating-faces party. Quote
romad1 Posted March 14 Author Posted March 14 (edited) Protesters target Tesla, Musk at West Bloomfield Township store I'm amused by the story of the cybertruck with Texas plates emitting a pathetic sound. Edited March 14 by romad1 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted March 14 Posted March 14 4 minutes ago, romad1 said: Protesters target Tesla, Musk at West Bloomfield Township store I'm amused by the story of the cybertruck with Texas plates emitting a pathetic sound. This is the same Tesla location where I spoke to poor Alex. What do our pearl clutchers have to say about this? Quote
romad1 Posted March 14 Author Posted March 14 1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said: This is the same Tesla location where I spoke to poor Alex. What do our pearl clutchers have to say about this? Poor Alex needs to join the Trump Breadlines. Quote
romad1 Posted March 14 Author Posted March 14 I've stopped flipping the bird. I'm doing thumbs down. I think it conveys more sad chagrin and disappointment than the more aggressive flipping the bird. In KC, Elon Musk’s Tesla Cybertrucks now come with an added feature: The middle finger Quote
CMRivdogs Posted March 14 Posted March 14 If this gets widespread coverage and it could be worse for Musk/Trump than Tesla. But we already know Trumpers absolutely hate canines Quote
romad1 Posted March 14 Author Posted March 14 4 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: If this gets widespread coverage and it could be worse for Musk/Trump than Tesla. But we already know Trumpers absolutely hate canines this is just wow. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted March 14 Posted March 14 25 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: This is the same Tesla location where I spoke to poor Alex. What do our pearl clutchers have to say about this? Musk should tell all his salespeople that they have to sell 5 cars a week or it's considered a resignation. See how loyal they are after that! Quote
gehringer_2 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 1 hour ago, romad1 said: a mentality prevalent in the mid-1970s when the Soviets were on the march and Western democracies were in decline. Munich is still a good lesson. You cannot appease the leopard-eating-faces party. Granting all that, the question remains whether forcing a shutdown does anything but make Trump stronger. ‘Accelerationism’ is a nice buzzword,another intellectual construct, but I’m not seeing any real way a shutdown advances any practical increase in opposition power. Quote
romad1 Posted March 14 Author Posted March 14 23 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Granting all that, the question remains whether forcing a shutdown does anything but make Trump stronger. ‘Accelerationism’ is a nice buzzword,another intellectual construct, but I’m not seeing any real way a shutdown advances any practical increase in opposition power. They’ll gain something if it forces the GOP to the bargaining table. If the bad faith GOP are just take our Constitutional crisis or die, then what is the point of anything? You might as well force synthesis. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 17 minutes ago, romad1 said: They’ll gain something if it forces the GOP to the bargaining table. If the bad faith GOP are just take our Constitutional crisis or die, then what is the point of anything? You might as well force synthesis. But it doesn't force the GOP to any table - they're the ones who don't care if it's all killed. Do the Dems think the GOP cares if they the dems decide to hold themselves hostages? It's like Cleavon Little in Blazing Saddles. Not to mention the opposition will lose a ton if he decides the can shut down the federal courts as 'non-emergency'. Quote
romad1 Posted March 14 Author Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: But it doesn't force the GOP to any table - they're the ones who don't care if it's all killed. Do the Dems think the GOP cares if they the dems decide to hold themselves hostages? It's like Cleavon Little in Blazing Saddles. Not to mention the opposition will lose a ton if he decides the can shut down the federal courts as 'non-emergency'. Yes it is like Cleavon Little. Shoot the hostage. Quote
romad1 Posted March 14 Author Posted March 14 You never willingly give up emergency powers to a madman. Quote
chasfh Posted March 14 Posted March 14 1 hour ago, romad1 said: I've stopped flipping the bird. I'm doing thumbs down. I think it conveys more sad chagrin and disappointment than the more aggressive flipping the bird. In KC, Elon Musk’s Tesla Cybertrucks now come with an added feature: The middle finger My thing since I started seeing them last year was to point at them and laugh. They’re so ****ing ridiculous-looking. How pathetic do you have to be to think they look cool? Quote
romad1 Posted March 14 Author Posted March 14 1 hour ago, chasfh said: My thing since I started seeing them last year was to point at them and laugh. They’re so ****ing ridiculous-looking. How pathetic do you have to be to think they look cool? Like most non Detroit places it’s every 3 vehicle is a Tesla here Quote
romad1 Posted March 14 Author Posted March 14 30 minutes ago, romad1 said: Like most non Detroit places it’s every 3 vehicle is a Tesla here Probably closer to 1/6 actually. It just seems like 1/3 sometimes. The Cybertrucks are the worst. You have to be a special kind of asshat to want to drive that. Quote
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