chasfh Posted March 22 Author Posted March 22 9 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I think they'll keep both. Hinch loves guys than can play all over the place. I doubt he'll have two DHs on the roster. Hinch needs guys who play all over the place because we are still working on getting established starters everywhere. 1 Quote
Tiger337 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 1 minute ago, chasfh said: Hinch needs guys who play all over the place because we are still working on getting established starters everywhere. That's part of it. I also think teams value versatility more than they did 10 years ago. 2 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 Another one down - Beck reports that Maeda is out of the rotation sweepstakes - will start the season in the pen. So Skubal, Flaherty, Olson, I'm going to say Mize is in, which leaves the last decision as Montero vs Jobe. Montero's results today were fine as far as they went, but NY didn't bring much of the team. Quote
Tenacious D Posted March 22 Posted March 22 Based on what they said on the telecast, I’d be shocked if Jobe makes the team. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Tenacious D said: Based on what they said on the telecast, I’d be shocked if Jobe makes the team. In Tony Paul's podcast with Avila he asked him about Jobe and Al mentioned JV's starts in 2005 when he had all this off the chart stuff but still got hammered by MLB hitters. Just for comparison, between college and the minors JV had thrown 450 innings prior to 2006. Jackson is at 252 IP since he left HS - that's pretty green even for a guy with great stuff. OTOH, that's about where Skenes was before last season - but Skenes is a freak even among the freaks that make up the MLB pitching population. Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted March 22 Posted March 22 7 hours ago, Tenacious D said: Based on what they said on the telecast, I’d be shocked if Jobe makes the team. A - They want him to prove it in games that count (in the minors) B - They want to wait until it gets a little warmer. Quote
Tiger337 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 Stavenhagen just said that Jobe will open the season in the rotation, Maeda to the bullpen, Montero to Toledo. Quote
Edman85 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 Should have a resolution on Chafin by tomorrow, per the CBA. Quote
Tiger337 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 They will probably be most of their roster decisions this weekend as they are leaving Florida after tomorrow's game. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tiger337 said: Stavenhagen just said that Jobe will open the season in the rotation, Maeda to the bullpen, Montero to Toledo. If Cobb is expected back around May 1, Mize and Jobe will probably spend the month worrying about who gets sent back. That (worrying about it) probably won't benefit either of them but such is life. Edited March 22 by gehringer_2 Quote
Edman85 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 This is the snippet in the CBA that applies to Chafin. Tomorrow is the Fourth Day Prior. He would have requested his release yesterday. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 7 minutes ago, Edman85 said: This is the snippet in the CBA that applies to Chafin. Tomorrow is the Fourth Day Prior. He would have requested his release yesterday. I don't think he has pitched well enough for anyone to be interested. I guess he had to decide if he'd rather sign a minor league deal or hang 'em up. Quote
Tiger337 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 39 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: If Cobb is expected back around May 1, Mize and Jobe will probably spend the month worrying about who gets sent back. That (worrying about it) probably won't benefit either of them but such is life. Don't worry. Somebody will get injured by then! Quote
Tiger337 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 37 minutes ago, Edman85 said: This is the snippet in the CBA that applies to Chafin. Tomorrow is the Fourth Day Prior. He would have requested his release yesterday. "Championship season" seems like odd wording. Quote
Edman85 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 11 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: "Championship season" seems like odd wording. Quote
Tiger337 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 4 minutes ago, Edman85 said: yeah, I understand what it means. It just seems like an odd phrase. Quote
Edman85 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 (edited) Rough estimate of Tigers CBT calculations if you assume the roster I'm assuming and it being fixed/static all year long (It's not, but it's a starting point). The split contract guys will vary based on how often they are in the Majors, players will earn bonuses, etc. Player CBT Total Jack Flaherty $27,500,000.00 Javier Baez $23,333,333.33 Gleyber Torres $15,000,000.00 Alex Cobb $15,000,000.00 Kenta Maeda $12,000,000.00 Tarik Skubal $10,150,000.00 Tommy Kahnle $7,750,000.00 Colt Keith $4,773,750.00 Jason Foley $3,150,000.00 Matt Vierling $3,005,000.00 John Brebbia $2,750,000.00 Jake Rogers $2,640,000.00 Casey Mize $2,340,000.00 Zach McKinstry $1,650,000.00 Andy Ibanez $1,400,000.00 Will Vest $1,400,000.00 Beau Brieske $1,300,000.00 Jose Urquidy $1,000,000.00 Riley Greene $800,000.00 Kerry Carpenter $800,000.00 Tyler Holton $800,000.00 Akil Baddoo $775,000.00 Parker Meadows $770,000.00 Reese Olson $770,000.00 Alex Lange $770,000.00 Justyn-Henry Malloy $770,000.00 Wenceel Perez $770,000.00 Spencer Torkelson $770,000.00 Dillon Dingler $760,000.00 Sawyer Gipson-Long $760,000.00 Ty Madden $760,000.00 Brenan Hanifee $760,000.00 Jackson Jobe $760,000.00 Trey Sweeney $760,000.00 Bailey Horn $223,900.00 Keider Montero $201,770.00 Matt Manning $197,177.00 Ryan Kreidler $147,177.00 Brant Hurter $123,900.00 Sean Guenther $123,900.00 Jace Jung $123,900.00 Chase Lee $62,000.00 Tyler Mattison $62,000.00 Tyler Owens $62,000.00 Andrew Chafin $0.00 Tomas Nido $0.00 Jordan Balasovic $0.00 Dietrich Enns $0.00 Wilmer Flores $0.00 Ricky Vanasco $0.00 Brian Serven $0.00 Jahmai Jones $0.00 Bligh Madris $0.00 Matt Gage $0.00 Ryan Miller $0.00 Brendan White $0.00 Eddys Leonard $0.00 Alex Faedo -$100,000.00 Eduardo Rodriguez -$933,333.33 Pre-Arb Bonus Pool $1,666,666.67 Player Benefits $17,540,000.00 CBT Payroll $167,998,140.67 CBT Threshold $241,000,000.00 CBT Room $73,001,859.33 Edited March 22 by Edman85 1 Quote
Edman85 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 While I'm in data dump mode, Top 10 international signing bonuses for players currently in the Tigers organization: Cris Rodriguez 1/15/2025 Dominican Republic Tigers $3,197,500 Cristian Santana 1/15/2021 Dominican Republic Tigers $2,975,000 Roberto Campos 7/2/2019 Cuba Tigers $2,850,000 Javier Osorio 1/15/2022 Venezuela Tigers $2,200,000 Jose De La Cruz 7/3/2018 Dominican Republic Tigers $1,850,000 Gleyber Torres 7/2/2013 Venezuela Cubs $1,700,000 Andy Ibanez 7/7/2015 Cuba Rangers $1,600,000 Nestor Miranda 1/15/2024 Dominican Republic Tigers $1,497,500 Enrique Jimenez 1/15/2023 Venezuela Tigers $1,250,000 Samuel Gil 1/15/2022 Venezuela Tigers $1,200,000 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 17 minutes ago, Edman85 said: While I'm in data dump mode, Top 10 international signing bonuses for players currently in the Tigers organization: Cris Rodriguez 1/15/2025 Dominican Republic Tigers $3,197,500 Cristian Santana 1/15/2021 Dominican Republic Tigers $2,975,000 Roberto Campos 7/2/2019 Cuba Tigers $2,850,000 Javier Osorio 1/15/2022 Venezuela Tigers $2,200,000 Jose De La Cruz 7/3/2018 Dominican Republic Tigers $1,850,000 Gleyber Torres 7/2/2013 Venezuela Cubs $1,700,000 Andy Ibanez 7/7/2015 Cuba Rangers $1,600,000 Nestor Miranda 1/15/2024 Dominican Republic Tigers $1,497,500 Enrique Jimenez 1/15/2023 Venezuela Tigers $1,250,000 Samuel Gil 1/15/2022 Venezuela Tigers $1,200,000 Del La Cruz and Santana still hanging around? Quote
4hzglory Posted March 22 Posted March 22 9 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Del La Cruz and Santana still hanging around? Santana just turned 21 in November. He has to pick up his contact skills and is probably running out of chances, but no reason to cut him this year unless they don’t see any hope. Quote
IdahoBert Posted March 22 Posted March 22 Jobe, Mize nab final rotation spots, solidify Tigers' starting staff LAKELAND, Fla. -- The Tigers rotation includes one of baseball’s top pitching prospects and one of baseball’s former top overall Draft picks. Detroit formally welcomed Jackson Jobe and Casey Mize to the final starting group on Saturday morning by optioning Keider Montero to Triple-A Toledo. 1 Quote
IdahoBert Posted March 22 Posted March 22 https://www.mlb.com/news/jackson-jobe-casey-mize-make-tigers-2025-opening-day-roster?adobe_mc=TS%3D1742660192|MCMID%3D78261064574897546767785557575872317822|MCORGID%3DA65F776A5245B01B0A490D44@AdobeOrg&affiliateId=mlbapp-ios_webview_home-feed&rsid=mlbios.at.bat.new.implementation Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted March 22 Posted March 22 Is this the position roster? C - Rogers, Dingler INF - Baez, Ibanez, Keith, McKinstry, Sweeney, Torres, Torkelson OF - Carpenter, Greene, Jones, Perez, Quote
Tiger337 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 25 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: Is this the position roster? C - Rogers, Dingler INF - Baez, Ibanez, Keith, McKinstry, Sweeney, Torres, Torkelson OF - Carpenter, Greene, Jones, Perez, Most likely. Quote
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