2025 Detroit Tigers Spring Training

[Motor City Sonics]

28 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

The Tigers have an option for 2026 in the Urquidy deal, so he could be valuable next year afer Cobb, Maeda and Flaherty leave.  

They should get a couple of players at the Trade Deadline for Skubal - who the Mets or Dodgers will pay 60 million a year in 2027 and beyond. 

[1776]

4 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

They should get a couple of players at the Trade Deadline for Skubal - who the Mets or Dodgers will pay 60 million a year in 2027 and beyond. 

It’ll be interesting to see how much ball is played in 2027. The word “lockout” is already in the conversation. 

[Motor City Sonics]

50 minutes ago, 1776 said:

It’ll be interesting to see how much ball is played in 2027. The word “lockout” is already in the conversation. 

I don't think there will actually be a season.     Just as  Greene/Meadows/Carp/Keith get good and Max Clark and Kevin McGonigle are getting read to break out.  

[Tenacious D]

7 hours ago, theroundsquare said:

Welcome Jose Urquidy! <shrug> 

Brilliant move.  Has had some success in the past and will cost very little next season when he’s healthy.  Good lottery ticket.

[IdahoBert]

Was just looking at the rest of the spring training schedule and discovered some things I hadn’t noticed or thought about.

1) There are 7 NL teams in the Grapefruit’s 15-team league and we only play three of them. Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and Atlanta. Why is there no Miami, St  Louis, Washington, or Mets? 

2) It’s easy, not to play Central Division rivals in the Grapefruit and “reveal our hand“ because there’s only one, Minnesota.

3) For some reason, we always seem to play the Yankees a lot - four times this year. I have no problem with this, but it’s almost like the Tigers and the Yankees have a partnership. 

4) The Tigers play 13 of their 32 games against NL teams and two of those are not in Florida. Their last two spring training games are in San Francisco against the Giants. The Tigers might be facing Verlander in SF, which would be kind of cool.
 

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, Motor City Sonics said:

I don't think there will actually be a season.     Just as  Greene/Meadows/Carp/Keith get good and Max Clark and Kevin McGonigle are getting read to break out.  

With all the money in the game now, for both owners and players, it's hard to believe they would give all that up

[gehringer_2]

6 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

With all the money in the game now, for both owners and players, it's hard to believe they would give all that up

Listening to Tony Clark did not sound promising. I got the impression that if the owners lock them out before the season starts again, the players are going to see striking during the season as their only recourse, and I can't say as I could blame them.

Edited 13 hours ago by gehringer_2

[1776]

3 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

I don't think there will actually be a season.     Just as  Greene/Meadows/Carp/Keith get good and Max Clark and Kevin McGonigle are getting read to break out.  

Yes. This is the biggest concern I have about a lockout.  

Additionally, I believe lockouts would include the minor leagues as well as they are now part of the contractual agreements between ownership and union. 
 

Edited 11 hours ago by 1776

[Tenacious D]

15 minutes ago, 1776 said:

This is the biggest concern I have about a lockout. 

If this becomes more apparent, I suspect that Clark nor McGonigle won’t be seen until September ‘26 to ensure they can play in the minors in ‘27.

[casimir]

2 hours ago, IdahoBert said:

Was just looking at the rest of the spring training schedule and discovered some things I hadn’t noticed or thought about.

1) There are 7 NL teams in the Grapefruit’s 15-team league and we only play three of them. Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and Atlanta. Why is there no Miami, St  Louis, Washington, or Mets? 

2) It’s easy, not to play Central Division rivals in the Grapefruit and “reveal our hand“ because there’s only one, Minnesota.

3) For some reason, we always seem to play the Yankees a lot - four times this year. I have no problem with this, but it’s almost like the Tigers and the Yankees have a partnership. 

4) The Tigers play 13 of their 32 games against NL teams and two of those are not in Florida. Their last two spring training games are in San Francisco against the Giants. The Tigers might be facing Verlander in SF, which would be kind of cool.
 

I think location of spring training sites comes into play.  I think in general the Grapefruit League has a group of teams on the Atlantic side and a group of teams on the Gulf of Mexico side, and the Tigers, Blue Jays, and Braves in between the two coasts.  I think to avoid too many cross state drives, the Grapefruit League is unofficially divided up into 2 or 3 pods where teams frequently match up with one another, and the occasional “out of pod” matchup occurs to fill out a daily schedule.  So I think that’s why the Tigers frequently match up with the Yankees, Phillies, Blue Jays, and Braves, but rarely play teams like the Cardinals, Nationals, and Marlins.

I could be absolutely dead nuts on, completely wrong, or somewhere in between the two on this.  I could scour the interwebs and find a map of spring training sites to somewhat support my hall brained idea, but I’m kind of tired and definitely lazy.

[Motor City Sonics]

2 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

With all the money in the game now, for both owners and players, it's hard to believe they would give all that up

The amount of greed on both sides here is immeasurable.   You know this.   Neither side will give on anything until they piss a whole season away.     They don't care about the game.  They don't care about the fans.  They don't care about the cities and businesses that'll lose money.  They only care about themselves.   We mean nothing.   

[Tiger337]

2 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

The amount of greed on both sides here is immeasurable.   You know this.   Neither side will give on anything until they piss a whole season away.     They don't care about the game.  They don't care about the fans.  They don't care about the cities and businesses that'll lose money.  They only care about themselves.   We mean nothing.   

No, they don't care...like every big business! I think they do care about losing a years worth of big money though.    

[IdahoBert]

55 minutes ago, casimir said:

I think location of spring training sites comes into play.  I think in general the Grapefruit League has a group of teams on the Atlantic side and a group of teams on the Gulf of Mexico side, and the Tigers, Blue Jays, and Braves in between the two coasts.  I think to avoid too many cross state drives, the Grapefruit League is unofficially divided up into 2 or 3 pods where teams frequently match up with one another, and the occasional “out of pod” matchup occurs to fill out a daily schedule.  So I think that’s why the Tigers frequently match up with the Yankees, Phillies, Blue Jays, and Braves, but rarely play teams like the Cardinals, Nationals, and Marlins.

I could be absolutely dead nuts on, completely wrong, or somewhere in between the two on this.  I could scour the interwebs and find a map of spring training sites to somewhat support my hall brained idea, but I’m kind of tired and definitely lazy.

I think you’re right, and that’s actually what I surmised but I wanted to see if anyone agreed with my lazy half brain idea and you did. I feel affirmed like when Steve Martin‘s character in The Jerk saw his name in the phonebook and was excited that his name was “in print” and felt certain that he was “going places.” And for me that means going to bed. 

[chasfh]

Not surprising. We all knew this one was coming. 

 

[Motor City Sonics]

8 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

No, they don't care...like every big business! I think they do care about losing a years worth of big money though.    

The players are paid very well, they can survive it.   The owners will find ways to write it off and they won't lose a thing.  Especially with this Billionaires-First country of ours,  especially now.   

[Motor City Sonics]

Will be able to watch Mud Hens games in 2027?    Just as the Tigers will be starting a peak.       Losing Skubal will hurt, but only a little bit since he's a 1 out of 5 guy.   Starting pitching is not as important as it once was.  Tigers kind of proved that last year.   But if the Mets don't win a Series this year or next, Cohen will let Skubal/Boras name their price.  If he looks anything like he did in 2024 again, that's going to be at least 60 million a year. 

But always remember.  Washington lost their superstar player, an everyday player and then immediately won a World Series.   Bryce is still ringless.    Build a good organization and you can survive losing one player.   

I'm telling you -- no MLB season.   This will be an ugly one.  

 

I wish we could eat cake frosting as a meal. 

[Motor City Sonics]

7 hours ago, IdahoBert said:

I think you’re right, and that’s actually what I surmised but I wanted to see if anyone agreed with my lazy half brain idea and you did. I feel affirmed like when Steve Martin‘s character in The Jerk saw his name in the phonebook and was excited that his name was “in print” and felt certain that he was “going places.” And for me that means going to bed. 

THIS GUY HATES CANS !

STAY AWAY FROM THE CANS !

THERE'S CANS IN THERE TOO

MORE CANS !

Edited 1 hour ago by Motor City Sonics

[Tiger337]

I remember seeing Manning pitch in the minors a few times.  He never impressed me.  I don't have any scouting skills, but he didn't stand out the way guys like Verlander and Porcello did and his gun readings were always less than I expected.  When he came to the Majors, he couldn't strike anybody out. I just never got really excited about him.    

[1776]

9 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

If this becomes more apparent, I suspect that Clark nor McGonigle won’t be seen until September ‘26 to ensure they can play in the minors in ‘27.

The MiLB players are union now, am I correct on this? If so, would they play if there was a lockout? Do minor leaguers have a vote in the agreements? 

[Tenacious D]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Not surprising. We all knew this one was coming. 

 

I could see him getting dealt for OF depth.

[chasfh]

2 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

I could see him getting dealt for OF depth.

Gotta do it before Boras demands his 7/300 contract.