2025 MLB Thread

[chasfh]

51 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

It was not in the international rules prior to its introduction to America.  It was just a gimmick used in tournament games.  It's still not used in regular season games internationally.  In Japan and Korea, they have three extra innngs and if the game is still tied after 12 innngs, then it's a tie.  That's the way to do it.  You can protect pitching staffs without bastardizing the game with cheap gimmicks.  

Placing runners on base at the start of an extra inning to bring the game to a quicker conclusion was used in the 2017 WBC. It was also used in the 2008 Olympics. That was before its introduction to America, by which I assume you mean the majors. It wasn't exactly the way MLB uses it to a "t", but the premise was very much the same.

I would hate to see MLB adopt tie games after 12 innings. I would regard that as a far worse bastardization of the game than placing runners on base to start an extra inning. That would probably not be as bad to me as eight-man batting orders, but that would be a matter of minor degree to me. Reasonable people can disagree on this.

 

[lordstanley]

I’d prefer a throw out. Position players throw off the mound with the goal of getting the ball past the opposing catcher. Ball can be no farther off the plate than the far sides of the batter boxes and can’t be over the catcher’s head. Bounces are allowed. 

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Placing runners on base at the start of an extra inning to bring the game to a quicker conclusion was used in the 2017 WBC. It was also used in the 2008 Olympics. That was before its introduction to America, by which I assume you mean the majors. It wasn't exactly the way MLB uses it to a "t", but the premise was very much the same.

I would hate to see MLB adopt tie games after 12 innings. I would regard that as a far worse bastardization of the game than placing runners on base to start an extra inning. That would probably not be as bad to me as eight-man batting orders, but that would be a matter of minor degree to me. Reasonable people can disagree on this.

 

The WBC and olympics are tournaments, not regular season.  WBC is really just an exhibition played by players not in peak baseball condition.  Baseball in the Olympics is pretty much the same.  

Ties may be boring but they do not change the rules of the game for the purpose of a cheap gimmick.  Ideally, I'd like to see them keep playing the game the same way baseball is meant to be played until there is a winner.  The purpose of ties would only be to save pitching staffs.  Ties were part of the early years of the game before they had lights. 

Ties are not ideal, but they are acceptable to me.  Extra inning baseball is not real baseball and I have ittle interest in watching it.  Thus, the winner is not a real winner.  I'll take a tie over that.  

[chasfh]

5 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

The WBC and olympics are tournaments, not regular season.  WBC is really just an exhibition played by players not in peak baseball condition.  Baseball in the Olympics is pretty much the same.  

Ties may be boring but they do not change the rules of the game for the purpose of a cheap gimmick.  Ideally, I'd like to see them keep playing the game the same way baseball is meant to be played until there is a winner.  The purpose of ties would only be to save pitching staffs.  Ties were part of the early years of the game before they had lights. 

Ties are not ideal, but they are acceptable to me.  Extra inning baseball is not real baseball and I have ittle interest in watching it.  Thus, the winner is not a real winner.  I'll take a tie over that.  

I didn't specify regular season. I said international rules, which practically by definition means tournaments, although Cuba was using them in their professional league when I watched some games there in 2015, which was the first time I'd ever seen anything like that.

They do allow ties still—the most recent one was in 2016, which is why the Cubs finished 103-58-1—but my impression is that ties can be declared only when games would be suspended by darkness or equipment failure, or in the 2016 case, by weather with a subsequent league decision not to make up the game. I don't believe it can be a discretionary decision between teams to save their pitching. If weather or darkness is not an issue, they play the extra innings regardless of whether they want to or not. Is that not correct?

[Tiger337]

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They do allow ties still—the most recent one was in 2016, which is why the Cubs finished 103-58-1—but my impression is that ties can be declared only when games would be suspended by darkness or equipment failure, or in the 2016 case, by weather with a subsequent league decision not to make up the game. I don't believe it can be a discretionary decision between teams to save their pitching. If weather or darkness is not an issue, they play the extra innings regardless of whether they want to or not. Is that not correct?

They do it in Spring training whch is also when the WBC is played! Anyway, I don't think the way they did something in the past has to always stay the same.   It would be stupid if they still played without gloves for example.   When the old way of doing things becomes impractical, then they can consider making a change.  However, I don't believe in fundamentally changing the rules of the game without a really good reason.  Even the DH was not a fundamemtal change in the way the game is played.  The game is still played the same way.  It's just a role change.   

[chasfh]

I can't seriously entertain the idea that playing extra innings and playing without gloves are even close to being equivalently stupid.

[Tiger337]

3 hours ago, chasfh said:

I can't seriously entertain the idea that playing extra innings and playing without gloves are even close to being equivalently stupid.

They were different eras.  It was a rule change just like extra inning runners was a rule change.  Playing without gloves would be dumber than extra inning base runners because it would be dangerous.  However, I still consider the latter to be unacceptable.  And now that the Tigers have their most exciting team since perhaps the 80s, it just becomes more annoying to be distracted by that monstrosity.  

Edited Sunday at 11:22 PM by Tiger337

[Sports_Freak]

Rangers defense...lol

 

[smr-nj]

edit to add: THIS IS NOT CONFIRMED ANYWHERE, so I’m sorry. Looks like it’s a non-story.

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Oakland A’s called up pitcher/outfielder Kelsie Whitmore to their club. She’s the first woman to be part of an MLB roster.

🎉.  I’d love to see her get into a game soon. This news made my day. 🩷

[1776]

2 hours ago, smr-nj said:

Oakland A’s called up pitcher/outfielder Kelsie Whitmore to their club. She’s the first woman to be part of an MLB roster.

🎉.  I’d love to see her get into a game soon. This news made my day. 🩷

Interesting. 🤔

So is John Fisher & the despicable A’s ownership channeling the Bill Veeck that signed Larry Doby…or the Bill Veeck that hired a midget to bat in a MLB game?

I wouldn’t put anything beyond the worst ownership in baseball. 

[smr-nj]

2 minutes ago, 1776 said:

Interesting. 🤔

So is John Fisher & the despicable A’s ownership channeling the Bill Veeck that signed Larry Doby…or the Bill Veeck that hired a midget to bat in a MLB game?

I wouldn’t put anything beyond the worst ownership in baseball. 

I just came to remove my post, cause I can’t find affirmation of this anywhere….

I’m sorry. And, I’m bummed. 🙁

[Tiger337]

She has only played in Independent Leagues and her career ERA is 12.04.  Are the Tigers playing them soon? 

[IdahoBert]

If after 12 innings with the score still tied in North Korea, the manager of each of the two teams will meet at home plate with paintball guns, walk 40ft. distance from each other and on the count of three fire.

Trained medical personnel will ascertain which manager would be most seriously wounded depending upon where the paintball shot is located on their bodies.

A headshot or one to a heart will considered more serious than a mere wounding.   

If both managers completely miss their target the first time, they each walk forward 10 feet putting them only 20 feet apart. If being only 20 feet apart they are still so inept as to meet a definite conclusion they will switch to arm wrestling.

[Hongbit]

Deplore both teams but this collaboration is my favorite City Connects.  

 

[papalawrence]

4 hours ago, IdahoBert said:

If after 12 innings with the score still tied in North Korea, the manager of each of the two teams will meet at home plate with paintball guns, walk 40ft. distance from each other and on the count of three fire.

Trained medical personnel will ascertain which manager would be most seriously wounded depending upon where the paintball shot is located on their bodies.

A headshot or one to a heart will considered more serious than a mere wounding.   

If both managers completely miss their target the first time, they each walk forward 10 feet putting them only 20 feet apart. If being only 20 feet apart they are still so inept as to meet a definite conclusion they will switch to arm wrestling.

Iirc Charles O'Finley suggested similar in 1973

[Sports_Freak]

How much is Cleveland struggling? They're being shutout by....the Twins. Yeah, the Twins. Go Minnesota. 

[Sports_Freak]

Cleveland's run differential was -18. They're losing 11-1. Their run differential may be worse that the WSox by the end of the night. They're struggling...

[1776]

On April 29th the Rockies are 20 games under .500. It’ll likely get worse from this point.

[Tigeraholic1]

5 minutes ago, 1776 said:

On April 29th the Rockies are 20 games under .500. It’ll likely get worse from this point.

Challenge the White Sox record? Love saying that now.

[chasfh]

17 hours ago, Hongbit said:

Deplore both teams but this collaboration is my favorite City Connects.  

 

Why would they choose a Bulls motif? 🤔

[monkeytargets39]

5 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Why would they choose a Bulls motif? 🤔

Jersey sales from Jordan fans

[chasfh]

2 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Jersey sales from Jordan fans

Yes. Also, Reinsdorf owns the Bulls as well as the White Sox. 

[monkeytargets39]

5 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Yes. Also, Reinsdorf owns the Bulls as well as the White Sox. 

Would be kinda funny if the Cubs did a Bears style city connect jersey in response.  Or a Blackhawks one

[theroundsquare]

34 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Would be kinda funny if the Cubs did a Bears style city connect jersey in response.  Or a Blackhawks one

why not both?

[1776]

April 29th -the athletic

MLB commissioner Rob Manfred said Monday he will rule on a request to reinstate Pete Rose from the league’s ineligible list, a topic that recently came up in a conversation between Manfred and President Donald Trump.

Manfred did not say when he would issue a ruling. Rose’s family filed a petition to have him posthumously reinstated on Jan. 8.