Trump Presidency | Summarized

[ewsieg]

While the Trump Presidency thread goes deep into his daily activities, I figured a summarized version might help point out the good and bad in his presidency.  Obviously I suspect there will be a lot more bad, but IMO he has so much bad, that horrible things he does, tend to drown out the really horrible things he's done.  So, I plan on weekly putting the good and bad of the last week here.  Others are free to do the same.  Note: I'm starting this in part because of all the issues i've had with Trump, the one I mention this week truly got my blood boiling and I felt it was drowed out.

The good - blank

The bad - His decision to stop sharing Russian intel with Ukraine and forcing that change with other Ukraine allies as well.  This does not cost money, this was done to punish Ukraine and nothing else.  People died as a result as Russia took advantage and hit Kyiv and other areas harder than they have in quite awhile.  Their blood is on his hands.

Honorable mention on bad - The search on all things 'gay' and other keywords, in an attempt to rewrite history.

Edited March 9 by ewsieg

[mtutiger]

It's not gotten the attention that it deserves IMO, mostly because of literally everything else happening, but the release of water that Trump ordered from Lake Success and Lake Kaweah in the Central Valley of California, ostensibly to help the LA wildfire effort, was some of the stupidest, Mad King Ludwig level **** I have ever seen. Maybe it's because I'm a civil engineer by trade, but anyone with a fully developed cerebral cortex should have been able to look at a map and notice that water from these two dammed up lakes flow have a bunch of mountains separating them from Los Angeles, no manmade structures (like an aqueduct) to convey the water across said mountains, and that the water from these lakes would (if the channels had enough flow anyway, which they generally do not because of agriculture usage) end up in the San Joaquin River, which flows north and dumps into the San Francisco Bay.

The end result of this was the risk of 1.6 billion gallons of water wasted (latest reporting is that most was recaptured in groundwater recharge ponds), the very real risk of property owners ending up flooded, and farmers, in one of the largest agricultural output areas of the country, potentially being deprived of water that it will need during the time of year when water reserves are being built up prior to planting season.

It's popped back up in the news due to more information coming out about a memo that was drafted at the time stating that it wouldn't help (https://www.yahoo.com/news/army-corps-knew-trumps-water-211325193.html), but still, I think it's an underrated event that shows how little intellectual curiosity that the President has and the consequences of not listening to experts who know WTF they are talking about.

[Tiger337]

He did bring back plastic straws though.

[Tigerbomb13]

8 hours ago, mtutiger said:

It's not gotten the attention that it deserves IMO, mostly because of literally everything else happening, but the release of water that Trump ordered from Lake Success and Lake Kaweah in the Central Valley of California, ostensibly to help the LA wildfire effort, was some of the stupidest, Mad King Ludwig level **** I have ever seen. Maybe it's because I'm a civil engineer by trade, but anyone with a fully developed cerebral cortex should have been able to look at a map and notice that water from these two dammed up lakes flow have a bunch of mountains separating them from Los Angeles, no manmade structures (like an aqueduct) to convey the water across said mountains, and that the water from these lakes would (if the channels had enough flow anyway, which they generally do not because of agriculture usage) end up in the San Joaquin River, which flows north and dumps into the San Francisco Bay.

The end result of this was the risk of 1.6 billion gallons of water wasted (latest reporting is that most was recaptured in groundwater recharge ponds), the very real risk of property owners ending up flooded, and farmers, in one of the largest agricultural output areas of the country, potentially being deprived of water that it will need during the time of year when water reserves are being built up prior to planting season.

It's popped back up in the news due to more information coming out about a memo that was drafted at the time stating that it wouldn't help (https://www.yahoo.com/news/army-corps-knew-trumps-water-211325193.html), but still, I think it's an underrated event that shows how little intellectual curiosity that the President has and the consequences of not listening to experts who know WTF they are talking about.

I always wondered if he just thinks that north to south on a map means up and down, which is something that a three year old would know that isn’t how gravity works. 

Edited March 9 by Tigerbomb13

[chasfh]

3 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

I always wondered if he just thinks that north to south on a map means up and down, which is something that a three year old would know. 

I don’t think I learned that until I was four.

[CMRivdogs]

10 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

He did bring back plastic straws though.

I've had a few bio disposable straws. They work for me. Donnie must suck extremely badly 

[romad1]

the irony of the King eliminating state and local control over things.

[casimir]

I forget, are we tariffing today anyone or is that tomorrow?

[mtutiger]

2 minutes ago, casimir said:

I forget, are we tariffing today anyone or is that tomorrow?

Steel and aluminum tariffs hit this Wednesday...

[casimir]

2 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Steel and aluminum tariffs hit this Wednesday...

Should be interesting to see how that affects canned goods, which, oh wait a second, weren’t grocery prices promised to be reduced?

[chasfh]

14 minutes ago, romad1 said:

the irony of the King eliminating state and local control over things.

It is never not ironic. War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, all that. Something else to keep in mind is “feature, not bug.”

[ewsieg]

I got sidetracked last week from posting here.  Another week that Trump did a lot that would probably define most presidents worst moments for their entire term.

The bad: I'm going to go with the Mahmoud Khalil situation.  There is a chance Trump reverses course rather than being reversed by the courts (please tell me that's a given....right?).  I picked this over the honorable mention of what I would consider is a bribe with the Tesla dealership on the WH lawn issue.  While both are clear illegal violations IMO, and arguably easier to tie directly to Trump on the latter, the first one should show that Trump does not care about your rights.  He can argue this guy is not a citizen, but if he's going to go after him, there is no reason to believe anyone that disagrees is next.

Note: I wish I would have posted this Friday or Saturday, as I can't rule out that his Pardon tweet from today did not influence me that he's ready to go after anyone that disagrees with him publicly.

[CMRivdogs]

They should just come over and start dismantling it.

 

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democracy in the United States and to honor the work of the late president Abraham Lincoln. 

Laboulaye hoped that by calling attention to the recent achievements of the United States, the French people would be inspired to create their own democracy in the face of a REPRESSIVE MONARCHY. 

 

[CMRivdogs]

 

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, ewsieg said:

I got sidetracked last week from posting here.  Another week that Trump did a lot that would probably define most presidents worst moments for their entire term.

The bad: I'm going to go with the Mahmoud Khalil situation.  There is a chance Trump reverses course rather than being reversed by the courts (please tell me that's a given....right?).  I picked this over the honorable mention of what I would consider is a bribe with the Tesla dealership on the WH lawn issue.  While both are clear illegal violations IMO, and arguably easier to tie directly to Trump on the latter, the first one should show that Trump does not care about your rights.  He can argue this guy is not a citizen, but if he's going to go after him, there is no reason to believe anyone that disagrees is next.

Note: I wish I would have posted this Friday or Saturday, as I can't rule out that his Pardon tweet from today did not influence me that he's ready to go after anyone that disagrees with him publicly.

I think there is zero chance he goes back on Khalil. Trump is beholden to Jewish/Israeli interests that influence his administration and his red hat base (who, even though they don't particularly like or respect Jews, need Israel to pursue the certain course they say will bring Christ back again); and he has already publicly regarded Muslims as not being worthy to be in America, with his blanket bans on visits from countries that are primarily Muslim.

[CMRivdogs]

2 hours ago, ewsieg said:

I got sidetracked last week from posting here.  Another week that Trump did a lot that would probably define most presidents worst moments for their entire term.

The bad: I'm going to go with the Mahmoud Khalil situation.  There is a chance Trump reverses course rather than being reversed by the courts (please tell me that's a given....right?).  I picked this over the honorable mention of what I would consider is a bribe with the Tesla dealership on the WH lawn issue.  While both are clear illegal violations IMO, and arguably easier to tie directly to Trump on the latter, the first one should show that Trump does not care about your rights.  He can argue this guy is not a citizen, but if he's going to go after him, there is no reason to believe anyone that disagrees is next.

Note: I wish I would have posted this Friday or Saturday, as I can't rule out that his Pardon tweet from today did not influence me that he's ready to go after anyone that disagrees with him publicly.

Justfrom what I'm seeing today the Regime (I refuse to call it an administration) will keep on doing what they're doing regarding immigrants, legal or otherwise, until stopped by the Supreme Court. There's a slim chance they'll rule against him. Then he may continue to defy any opposition because he thinks he can. 

[Tiger337]

17 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

Justfrom what I'm seeing today the Regime (I refuse to call it an administration) will keep on doing what they're doing regarding immigrants, legal or otherwise, until stopped by the Supreme Court. There's a slim chance they'll rule against him. Then he may continue to defy any opposition because he thinks he can. 

I prefer to call it "The Party"

[ewsieg]

Week starting 3/17 summary:

I almost posted earlier when I saw articles about Trump deleting information on Ukrainian kids that were kidnapped by Russia, but it sounds like the program tracking them stopped, which honestly there may not have been much further for them to do.  

As the week played out, I feel the worse thing he did this week was sending 'gang members' to Venezuela.  The 'high standard' they used, like interpreting tattoo's simply meant a lot of civil rights were violated and unfortunately not only violated, but due to moving them outside of the US, there is no means for recourse either.  Add in the fact that it appears like they violated a court order by not returning them because they were over international waters (I thought the Gulf of America was renamed so we had rights to that area?)  

[chasfh]

The Gulf of Mexico was renamed because Trump wanted to troll the entire world.

[ewsieg]

Bad things - Week starting 3/24

I feel like this week is a toss up.  I think most would say the obvious answer is the small issue where the adults in the room, errr sorry, the bros in the room put the lives of US soldiers in danger due to carelessness.  Living in the midwest, I could 'vote for my own interest' and name the auto tariffs, but alas, merely honorable mentions.

That said, this week i'm going with a continuation of last week, but not just because it's a continuation, it's also an escalation.  With Rubio's presser the other day regarding another student, due process will not be afforded to folks with visas.  (any republicans out there remember arguing slippery slope back in the day?)  And with this week, they show they are not only going after the loud leaders of protests, but simply anyone that protests anything they don't like.  

[chasfh]

Good work, keep it up.