2025 Detroit Tigers General Discussion Thread

[Edman85]

Found one: Bret De Geus in 2021 was claimed off waivers before he could be returned.

[Sports_Freak]

3 hours ago, Nate7474 said:

I think they are going to do this a lot throughout the year to lessen the innings on his arm with it being such a long season compared to what he’s used to. 

I wonder if there's a number of innings they have in mind? 125? 150? If so, they'll have to shut him down at some point. Montero and Cobb will have to come thru for us.

[Sports_Freak]

2 hours ago, davidsb623 said:

Did not happen to Vest, he was Rule 5 drafted by Mariners from Tigers and later returned to Tigers.  No other team picked him up after the Mariners removed him from the 26 man roster and was returned to Detroit.

Guys are traded a lot day of Rule 5 draft, I never said otherwise.

I was always under the assumption that players selected in the rule 5 draft had to stay on the roster all season or else offered back to the team they were picked from. I never heard about waivers or allowing to be traded. There was a video on social media of Vest in the BP in Seattle and a coach telling him he better get it together or they would send him back to Detroit. 😅

[davidsb623]

1 hour ago, Edman85 said:

Found one: Bret De Geus in 2021 was claimed off waivers before he could be returned.

That took some digging to find and wasn't that long ago.  Good find. 

[4hzglory]

1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said:

I wonder if there's a number of innings they have in mind? 125? 150? If so, they'll have to shut him down at some point. Montero and Cobb will have to come thru for us.

I would guess it's around 150-160 which won't take much shutting down.  They can relatively easily keep moving him back a day here and there and get him in the 25-28 start range which at 6 innings per is around 150.  In reality, a combination of pitches/stressful pitches/innings is more what they will base the quota on.  And  if they get into the post season, as long as he's continued to be spaced out is he ok to continue?  If everyone is healthy they wouldn't likely need him to have starter innings this postseason, so more likely to be a couple innings here and there.

[gehringer_2]

6 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

Yes.  He has aged out and has no future ever.  Just like Trey Sweeney.

I won't tell Trey if you don't.

[gehringer_2]

5 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

Interesting to see C-Mo and Shep in the mix

 

Was he ever charged with anything?

[casimir]

4 hours ago, 4hzglory said:

I would guess it's around 150-160 which won't take much shutting down.  They can relatively easily keep moving him back a day here and there and get him in the 25-28 start range which at 6 innings per is around 150.  In reality, a combination of pitches/stressful pitches/innings is more what they will base the quota on.  And  if they get into the post season, as long as he's continued to be spaced out is he ok to continue?  If everyone is healthy they wouldn't likely need him to have starter innings this postseason, so more likely to be a couple innings here and there.

Seems a little aggressive since he didn’t eclipse 100 IP last season.  But I pay to get into a ballpark rather than being paid to work in one, so what do I know?  As long as they have a reasonable plan that includes some postseason work.

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, casimir said:

Seems a little aggressive since he didn’t eclipse 100 IP last season.  But I pay to get into a ballpark rather than being paid to work in one, so what do I know?  As long as they have a reasonable plan that includes some postseason work.

Unless he really eclipses everyone else on the staff, he'll just go to the BP for the post-season. In fact with this staff probably two starters go to the pen.

Edited yesterday at 12:51 AM by gehringer_2

[lordstanley]

I’m at an age now where everyone under 30 looks the same to me. 

 

[casimir]

42 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Unless he really eclipses everyone else on the staff, he'll just go to the BP for the post-season. In fact with this staff probably two starters go to the pen.

You assume there will be enough healthy SPs for the playoffs at your own peril.

[Edman85]

Bailey Horn was sent down yesterday per the transaction logs. Chafin time? Balazovic?

[oblong]

21 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

Interesting to see C-Mo and Shep in the mix

 

Of course Mickey has his flannel.  

[chasfh]

12 hours ago, lordstanley said:

I’m at an age now where everyone under 30 looks the same to me. 

 

Is that Reese Olson in glasses?

[Edman85]

The Tigers have gotten really good at syncing their 6th starter up with double headers. Starting Montero Monday was a stroke of genius.

[casimir]

1 hour ago, Edman85 said:

The Tigers have gotten really good at syncing their 6th starter up with double headers. Starting Montero Monday was a stroke of genius.

So now that it’s 10 games in 9 days, I would imagine he finds a start somewheres along the line.  Maybe get away day game in Houston?  Or perhaps that doesn’t line up well enough.

[monkeytargets39]

9 hours ago, chasfh said:

Is that Reese Olson in glasses?

Morty Smith

[Arlington]

Jobe was already moved back to start Saturday.  Mize starting today or tomorrow doesn't affect that consideration at all.  The extra two days suggests something is up with him. 

[Tigermojo]

18 minutes ago, Arlington said:

Jobe was already moved back to start Saturday.  Mize starting today or tomorrow doesn't affect that consideration at all.  The extra two days suggests something is up with him. 

I think it's just taking advantage of the 27th man while they can.

[gehringer_2]

6 minutes ago, Tigermojo said:

I think it's just taking advantage of the 27th man while they can.

This. Sat is Montero's scheduled day to pitch and since it's now a DH it's a free call-up.

[Arlington]

4 minutes ago, Tigermojo said:

I think it's just taking advantage of the 27th man while they can.

That's a good point.  It may be that the pen has been rested and it may be opportune to use an opener

[Edman85]

15 minutes ago, Arlington said:

That's a good point.  It may be that the pen has been rested and it may be opportune to use an opener

If they went Jobe and Mize tomorrow, who would start next Thursday?

[Edman85]

I got some incomplete info on some minor league deals...

Opt Outs:

• Dietrich Enns: 7/1, 7/20, 8/15
• Ricky Vanasco: 7/15, 8/15
• Ryan Miller: 7/1 (Upward Mobility)

Enns also has a clause that if he is on the major league season at season's end, he's a free agent with a $3M club option.

I don't have info on Balazovic, Gamel, Flores, Serven, Jones, Madris, or Gage.

Chafin's opt-outs are defined by the CBA: May 1 and June 1.

Edited 19 hours ago by Edman85

[Edman85]

Current CBT projections:

Player	CBT Total
Jack Flaherty	$27,500,000.00
Javier Baez	$23,333,333.33
Gleyber Torres	$15,000,000.00
Alex Cobb	$15,000,000.00
Kenta Maeda	$12,000,000.00
Tarik Skubal	$10,150,000.00
Tommy Kahnle	$7,750,000.00
Colt Keith	$4,773,750.00
Jason Foley	$3,150,000.00
Matt Vierling	$3,005,000.00
John Brebbia	$2,750,000.00
Jake Rogers	$2,640,000.00
Casey Mize	$2,340,000.00
Zach McKinstry	$1,650,000.00
Tomas Nido	$1,403,225.81
Andy Ibanez	$1,400,000.00
Will Vest	$1,400,000.00
Manuel Margot	$1,300,000.00
Beau Brieske	$1,025,000.00
Jose Urquidy	$1,000,000.00
Riley Greene	$812,400.00
Tyler Holton	$797,700.00
Kerry Carpenter	$796,800.00
Reese Olson	$787,100.00
Spencer Torkelson	$785,700.00
Alex Lange	$782,200.00
Parker Meadows	$781,600.00
Akil Baddoo	$775,000.00
Wenceel Perez	$770,700.00
Brant Hurter	$767,100.00
Trey Sweeney	$764,000.00
Sawyer Gipson-Long	$763,600.00
Dillon Dingler	$762,600.00
Ty Madden	$761,400.00
Jackson Jobe	$760,900.00
Brenan Hanifee	$759,095.70
Justyn-Henry Malloy	$752,977.96
Jace Jung	$676,666.67
Sean Guenther	$663,274.19
Chase Lee	$662,430.11
Bailey Horn	$242,282.15
Ryan Kreidler	$233,096.23
Brewer Hicklen	$230,750.54
Keider Montero	$222,917.90
Matt Manning	$197,177.00
Tyler Mattison	$62,000.00
Tyler Owens	$62,000.00
Andrew Chafin	$0.00
Jordan Balazovic	$0.00
Dietrich Enns	$0.00
Ben Gamel	$0.00
Wilmer Flores	$0.00
Ricky Vanasco	$0.00
Brian Serven	$0.00
Jahmai Jones	$0.00
Bligh Madris	$0.00
Matt Gage	$0.00
Ryan Miller	$0.00
Brendan White	$0.00
Alex Faedo	-$100,000.00
Eduardo Rodriguez	-$933,333.33
Pre-Arb Bonus Pool	$1,666,666.67
Player Benefits	$18,000,000.00
CBT Payroll	$173,637,110.91
CBT Threshold	$241,000,000.00
CBT Room	$67,362,889.09

[chasfh]

12 hours ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Morty Smith

Oh, yeah, I see the resemblance now.