Red Wings GDTs April 2025

[lordstanley]

9 games left. 3 at home, 6 on the road. All 9 are against teams currently in playoff position. Given that, I figured at the beginning of March the Wings would need to build a 4-5 pt cushion to be safe for a playoff spot. Obviously that didn't happen with a brutal 4W 10L March.

The Wings are in a 5-team mix for the final spot. 3 points behind both Montreal and the NYR (game in hand on the Rangers), a point behind Columbus (played one more game than Columbus), tied with NYI (Wings have one more win). I'd put the Wings' playoff chances at well under 10%.

On the flip side, looking at the draft, Wings have the 11th worst record in the NHL. Could easily get into the bottom 10 by getting passed by NYI. Possibly by Anaheim. Hard to go beyond that. So likely finish in the #9-#12 range. 

 

 

[lordstanley]

Wings weather early storm but still outshot 11-4 in opening period.  Tied 0-0 after 1 against red-hot St. Louis who have won 9 straight games. 

[lordstanley]

Habs tie the Panthers with 9 seconds left in 3rd period. 

 

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[lordstanley]

…and Habs win it in overtime. Good news for the Leafs, dagger for the Wings

[lordstanley]

Wings lead. Compher of all people. 

[MichiganCardinal]

Leave it to the Wings to pitch 59:32 of shoutout hockey and then head to OT.

[MichiganCardinal]

Such a fitting way to blow it too with a mind-blowing turnover in 3-on-3.

[lordstanley]

Not good enough. Not the game, not the team, not the season. 

 

[1984Echoes]

  On 4/1/2025 at 3:07 PM, lordstanley said:

... brutal 4W 10L March.

The Wings are in a 5-team mix ... playoff chances at well under 10%.

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I'm looking only at draft positioning at this point.

They're not yet good enough. Disappointing season.

But we need some lottery luck to get my top target Porter Martone... top 2 pick in my opinion.

Maybe we settle for 6'6" RHD Radim Mrtka?

[Motor City Sonics]

There goes the playoffs.  That was it.   

Tired of this.  

Yzerman is failing.   

 

[MichiganCardinal]

  On 4/2/2025 at 2:56 AM, Motor City Sonics said:

Yzerman is failing.   

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Hard to see it any other way. He’s got at least one more season to figure it out. But there’s no excuse anymore, and I’m not even sure what’s good enough. Backing into an eight-seed next year and getting swept wouldn’t inspire a vote of confidence either.

In a league where half the teams make the postseason, a decade long drought is inexcusable.

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[Motor City Sonics]

  On 4/2/2025 at 3:08 AM, MichiganCardinal said:

Hard to see it any other way. He’s got at least one more season to figure it out. But there’s no excuse anymore, and I’m not even sure what’s good enough. Backing into an eight-seed next year and getting swept wouldn’t inspire a vote of confidence either.

In a league where half the teams make the postseason, a decade long drought is inexcusable.

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Exactly.  HALF the teams make the playoffs and it's been a decade?     That's pathetic.    

[lordstanley]

Did we make a deal with the devil for the four Stanley Cups? Fine for me, I had a lifetime's worth of celebration for that 15-20 year period. But I feel for the under 20s or don't know what it's like to cheer for a good team.

[buddha]

how many open nets did they miss?  they were being outshot but not outplayed for most of the game but just could not finish.

is simon edvinsson actually good?

cant we find someone decent to play alongside seider?

we have small forwards who play a bigger game on the boards than our big forwards.

and cossa and danielson set for another season in the minors so we can watch mrazek/talbot and jt compher again next year.

honestly, rantanen was always a pipe dream.  marner isnt coming here.  the only way they get a "star" will be to trade for one.

[buddha]

if the wings are going to "build through the draft" then at some point they actually need to play the players they've drafted.

or just admit you drafted the wrong players.

wallinder/buium should be due to come next season or be traded for someone who can help.  cossa should be here.  danielson needs to be here.  asp/mbn will likely be in GR but should also be worthy of spots on the team.

i understand the seider/raymond timeline he wants to be on.  but if that's the case then why not just tank until next season?  maybe that's what they were doing all along by calling up watson and bringing back petry and making no deadline moves?

its frustrating, but NEXT season is the real litmus test, imo.  they have money.  they have prospects.  they have picks.  if you want to build around seider/raymond then go out and make an offer sheet to someone who is cap strapped like st louis did this year.  i dont think you'll get marner but are you willing to bid $13m for 7 years to get him?  

or are we in for another year of washed up vets on small deals to "bide time" for the draft picks to get here?

i'm more patient than most, but next year needs to see some youth AND some improvement.  maybe stevie doesnt go, but i dont see what draper, cleary, fischer, lidstrom, kronwall and the rest of the front office have done to prove they should stay.  yzerman built a stanley cup winning organization, what have those other guys done off the ice to deserve the benefit of the doubt?

what IS this team?  are they puck possession?  are they big and strong?  are they defense first?  are they offense first?

or are they just a collection of players who agreed to sign here?  i dont see a plan.

[Shinzaki]

Coming into the season...I thought they could regress a bit this year after losing Perron and Ghost..esp on the pp. 

Ironically...the PP has been better this year, even though Gustafson and Tarasenko were not suitable replacements for Ghost and Perron.  Ras, Compher and while he was here, Veleno all backslide a bit.  Those issues have lead to a crippling lack of 5 on 5 scoring. Couple that with the inexplicably horrible PK and lack of consistent goaltending and you get a team that will miss the playoffs.

On the bright side...Edvinsson has been decent and shows a lot of potential...Kasper has shown more offense than his detractors thought he would and Johansson has shown he's a viable 2nd or 3rd pairing dman.

Not gonna be much better next year unless we find a legit wing to roll on the top line with Larkin and Raymond to provide more scoring. I hope they can bring Kane back..or they'll need another wing for the second line. They also need a better LHD for the top pairing.  

You would hope guys like Danielson,Cosa, Wallinder  et al...would get a shot.  Would like to Watson up here as well...I think he bring an edge that this team really lacks.  

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[gehringer_2]

  On 4/2/2025 at 6:03 PM, Shinzaki said:

On the bright side...Edvinsson has been decent and shows a lot of potential...Kasper has shown more offense than his detractors thought he would and Johansson has shown he's a viable 2nd or 3rd pairing dman.

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For as much as we complain about how slow they are to promote, they are playing 4 guys who are pretty much rookies this season. I think there is a fair argument that the goal tending was bad enough they should have given Cossa some run, but OTOH, In the one game he did play he didn't exactly demonstrate an NHL level sense of positioning. But I still would have preferred to see a longer test.

So I'm not so concerned about the management of the internal talent pipeline. They are missing the playoffs because of their pro level moves  - and over more than just this season.

[lordstanley]

Wings 4-1 leas at home to Carolina has been cut to 4-3. Still 5 minutes in regulation.  

[lordstanley]

Wings keep teeny weeny hopes alive with 5-3 win.

[buddha]

huge win.

keep hope alive!  

need the habs to lose a couple this weekend.

[lordstanley]

  On 4/5/2025 at 1:40 AM, buddha said:

huge win.

keep hope alive!  

need the habs to lose a couple this weekend.

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And then they play each at Le Centre Bell on Tuesday. 

[Sports_Freak]

The last couple of minutes of an NHL game with a goalie pulled is arguably the most exciting thing in sports.

[lordstanley]

How could 4 teams be tied for 8th place with 81 points after Tuesday night:

- Wings beat Florida on Sunday and in Montreal on Tuesday 

- Habs lose in regulation to Philly on Saturday, Nashville on Sunday and the Wings on Tuesday 

- Rangers split their two games at Devils on Saturday and hosting Tampa on Monday 

- Jackets win 2 of the next 3, with one game against at Toronto then a home and home with Ottawa

After Tuesday night, the Habs will have 4 games left and the Rangers, Jackets and Wings will have 5 games left. Wings would almost certainly lose the tiebreaker over NYR, almost certainly win the tiebreaker over CBJ, likely win tiebreaker over Montreal 

[gehringer_2]

  On 4/5/2025 at 1:38 AM, lordstanley said:

Wings keep teeny weeny hopes alive with 5-3 win.

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4 even strength goals. Where has that been?

[buddha]

montreal wins.  rangers lose.  cbus loses.

next two games are must wins if you still want to make the playoffs.