NBA Info - April 2025

[buddha]

13 hours ago, Deleterious said:

 

watching the ncaa and then watching the nba is like watching two different sports.  the skill level in the nba is far and away so much better.  

watch an nba game from the 80s or 90s.  not a finals game, but a regular season matchup between the hawks and the kings or something.  in many ways its dump the ball in the paint, then watch the wrestling match that ensues on any rebound.  rinse, repeat.

there are lots of issues with today's nba.  but the players are so skilled at shooting and so athletic its hard for me to say its definitely worse than the nba i grew up with and romanticize.

i dislike the constant iso ball of a guy like harden, and i too hate the refs calling so many fouls on jump shots and the shooter manipulating contact just to draw a foul.  i also think theyve neutered any defense and taken too much physicalness out of the game.  but the skill level is amazing.  and the athleticism too.  off the charts.  that alone makes it interesting.

[Hongbit]

Watching the NCAA games left me a little disgusted last weekend.  There was a constant trend of players driving the lane and refusing to attack the big at the basket.  

I repeatedly watched game after game of a guy blowing by his defender and then turning around and heading completely away from the hoop as he got close to the basket.  It’s like they afraid of getting postered or something.  

The big is going to block some but he’s also going to get called for a foul as many times or more.  5 fouls in the college makes it really easy to put a big in foul trouble but that can’t happen if players are too afraid to go up strong and let the ref help them.    

Not sure if it’s softness or not wanting to end up as instagram short forever but these kids need to stop this trend.  I really hope it doesn’t bleed over into the NBA.

Edited yesterday at 01:44 PM by Hongbit

[buddha]

1 hour ago, Hongbit said:

Watching the NCAA games left me a little disgusted last weekend.  There was a constant trend of players driving the lane and refusing to attack the big at the basket.  

I repeatedly watched game after game of a guy blowing by his defender and then turning around and heading completely away from the hoop as he got close to the basket.  It’s like they afraid of getting postered or something.  

The big is going to block some but he’s also going to get called for a foul as many times or more.  5 fouls in the college makes it really easy to put a big in foul trouble but that can’t happen if players are too afraid to go up strong and let the ref help them.    

Not sure if it’s softness or not wanting to end up as instagram short forever but these kids need to stop this trend.  I really hope it doesn’t bleed over into the NBA.

it left me bored watching guys miss open shots.

[Deleterious]

I only watched a few games so maybe I'm wrong.  But college seems to rely on the 3PT shot less than NBA teams do.

[Deleterious]

Chuck Daly is rolling over in his grave.

 

[Betrayer]

20 hours ago, Deleterious said:

 

Huh? Is his logic that there would be more paint touches and therefore more fouls? That's a weird take. Also, Cade has spent the entire season proving that more paint shots doesn't mean more free throws 🤣

Either way, it's obvious that changes to how they call the game defensively are overdue as well.

[Deleterious]

55 minutes ago, Betrayer said:

Huh? Is his logic that there would be more paint touches and therefore more fouls? That's a weird take. Also, Cade has spent the entire season proving that more paint shots doesn't mean more free throws 🤣

Either way, it's obvious that changes to how they call the game defensively are overdue as well.

Nobody will ever be in the corner.  You just added two more defenders to the paint.  It will mean more fouls and/or people taking 70 three point shots from above the break.  Neither one is a fix IMO.

More than willing to see it in the G-League though. 

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, Deleterious said:

Nobody will ever be in the corner.  You just added two more defenders to the paint.  It will mean more fouls and/or people taking 70 three point shots from above the break.  Neither one is a fix IMO.

More than willing to see it in the G-League though. 

don't know the breakdown on shot percentage in the corner vs the rest of the arc, but the real key is to get the eFG for the all threes -for at least the big majority of players, to a number closer to the eFG of the midrange jumper. Then the D is no longer biased to any point on the floor. If you can do that by eliminating just the corner, fine, if not the line needs to be moved back all the way around.

[Deleterious]

 

[Betrayer]

1 hour ago, Deleterious said:

 

This kid just keeps shooting himself in the foot.

But also, isn't nearly every NBA player's celebration a three finger gun, bow and arrow, etc? Even Cade does the double-tap finger gun thing when he makes an And-1. I get that Ja has a real history with this and you certainly don't want players making the gun gesture to other players, but it seems like it might be something the NBA should address across the board if they're going to come down on it.

[buddha]

1 hour ago, Betrayer said:

This kid just keeps shooting himself in the foot.

But also, isn't nearly every NBA player's celebration a three finger gun, bow and arrow, etc? Even Cade does the double-tap finger gun thing when he makes an And-1. I get that Ja has a real history with this and you certainly don't want players making the gun gesture to other players, but it seems like it might be something the NBA should address across the board if they're going to come down on it.

the nba has backed themselves into a corner by even bringing it up in the first place.  now they HAVE to enforce it and do something or they look weak and dumb.

they never should have said anything in the first place.  its a celebration almost everyone does a version of, from the nba to grade school.