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  On 4/4/2025 at 7:25 PM, IdahoBert said:

Malloy — at least according to the box score because I’m not watching this game or paying close attention in general — appears to be playing like a AAAA player again. Of course he might be taking called third strikes that are really balls and the ump is an idiot. 

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first K was definitely on a ball - by almost a full ball width.  But the ump gave the pitcher extra on the outside against all the RH batters pretty much all game long.

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  On 4/4/2025 at 8:36 PM, Sports_Freak said:

The box score says no Tiger errors? That wild throw Javy made that didn't record an out was a FC and no error? It looked like a throwing error to me...

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well the worst actual fielding 'error' was Kreidler breaking in on a ball over his head that he probably catches if he takes the right route. 

On the IF play, I suppose if the scorer reasons that the runner would have been safe at 2b anyway given 'ordinary' effort, then Javy's decision to try for the DP it and having it fail is just a failed FC. No argument that a ball thrown to a base at the ankles is an error, but Javy didn't get much on it fro his knees so it really shouldn't have been that tough for Keith the have come up with it. Colt hasn't looked all that good in the field at 1st or 2nd. Maybe it's gotten in his head a little now.

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Time to call up Ben Malgeri.   He's hitting .750 in the minors.   That's incredible.    Do you realize that if he continues to hit like this all season he's going to hit..........what..........750 ?        Why do we have to suffer Kreidler?      It's Malgeri Time !

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  On 4/5/2025 at 12:42 AM, Motor City Sonics said:

Time to call up Ben Malgeri.   He's hitting .750 in the minors.   That's incredible.    Do you realize that if he continues to hit like this all season he's going to hit..........what..........750 ?        Why do we have to suffer Kreidler?      It's Malgeri Time !

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What did he do? Go 3 for 4?

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  On 4/4/2025 at 8:36 PM, Sports_Freak said:

The box score says no Tiger errors? That wild throw Javy made that didn't record an out was a FC and no error? It looked like a throwing error to me...

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I think I remember learning once that there is no error charged to the fielders on a fielder’s choice as long as there’s no additional advance on the play, similar to how there is no error charged on the back end of a double play if the throw to first pulls the 1B off the bag or the ball dropped by 1B and the runner is safe and doesn’t advance to second. I’ll have to see whether I can get clarification on that.

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  On 4/5/2025 at 1:02 AM, Sports_Freak said:

I wonder if Riley is going to hit 40 long balls this year?

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It's funny how you can pretty much throw away everything they say about hitting before the season started. The big push for Riley was supposedly to lay off outside pitches. Well of course they are trying to pitch him away and he's doing just fine swinging away and taking them the other way. The whole discussion in the interviews with Hinch was probably 80% a mind game played for the oppositions' analysts.

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  On 4/5/2025 at 2:43 AM, chasfh said:

I think I remember learning once that there is no error charged to the fielders on a fielder’s choice as long as there’s no additional advance on the play, similar to how there is no error charged on the back end of a double play if the throw to first pulls the 1B off the bag or the ball dropped by 1B and the runner is safe and doesn’t advance to second. I’ll have to see whether I can get clarification on that.

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But the reason it wasn't an error was because it was ruled a FC. Incorrect ruling, IMO. It was a throwing error all the way. 

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  On 4/5/2025 at 2:48 AM, gehringer_2 said:

It's funny how you can pretty much throw away everything they say about hitting before the season started. The big push for Riley was supposedly to lay off outside pitches. Well of course they are trying to pitch him away and he's doing just fine swinging away and taking them the other way. The whole discussion in the interviews with Hinch was probably 80% a mind game played for the oppositions' analysts.

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I think Riley has 2 home runs and a long 2 base hit going oppo. He has plenty of strength. Outside pitches are yelling "hit me." 😆😆

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  On 4/5/2025 at 2:56 AM, Sports_Freak said:

But the reason it wasn't an error was because it was ruled a FC. Incorrect ruling, IMO. It was a throwing error all the way. 

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LOL - Right from the get go you have to let go of what should be vs what is when it comes to MLB scoring.

Seriously, if I had to guess, you get to the no error ruling based on an assumption by the scorer that if Javy had taken the time to stand up and set for a throw (i.e. ordinary effort play), the runner would have been safe. So by attempting the DP he went beyond ordinary effort and it's just a failed FC (and no-one got an extra base on the throw so no error was charged)  even though he might have been able to take more time and go to 1st for one. Funny thing is that if had gone to 1st and made a bad throw, for certain the error would have been charged. But that's just another measure of how goofed up scoring is. And of course, the error in judgement to attempt a DP that isn't there isn't an error either. 🤷‍♂️

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  On 4/5/2025 at 3:16 AM, gehringer_2 said:

LOL - Right from the get go you have to let go of what should be vs what is when it comes to MLB scoring.

Seriously, if I had to guess, you get to the no error ruling based on an assumption by the scorer that if Javy had taken the time to stand up and set for a throw (i.e. ordinary effort play), the runner would have been safe. So by attempting the DP he went beyond ordinary effort and it's just a failed FC (and no-one got an extra base on the throw so no error was charged)  even though he might have been able to take more time and go to 1st for one. Funny thing is that if had gone to 1st and made a bad throw, for certain the error would have been charged. But that's just another measure of how goofed up scoring is. And of course, the error in judgement to attempt a DP that isn't there isn't an error either. 🤷‍♂️

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I guess. I still don't agree that it wasn't an error though. A good throw to second base gets the runner. But yeah, official scorers are a judgement call. No runs scored, so its meaningless, I guess.

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