4/6/25 1:40PM White Sox @ Tigers

[chasfh]

Just now, Sports_Freak said:

Now, how do we quiet those damn Yankee bats?

That’s what’s going to make the Yankees series so interesting: our immovable object of a pitching staff versus their irresistible force of a hitting roster.

[lordstanley]

2 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Now, how do we quiet those damn Yankee bats?

Yankees should be a good measuring stick.  When 6 of 9 games so far have been against a historically great or historically awful team, hard to draw firm conclusions.  

[gehringer_2]

5 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Now, how do we quiet those damn Yankee bats?

Games all moved up in the day to make sure the Yankees' torpedo bats torpedo bats don't freeze.

[IdahoBert]

7 minutes ago, chasfh said:

That’s what’s going to make the Yankees series so interesting: our immovable object of a pitching staff versus their irresistible force of a hitting roster.

Last I checked, they were averaging nine runs per game. 

[monkeytargets39]

Everyone on this team is above .700 ops except Ibanez, Kriedler and Rogers.

[chasfh]

18 minutes ago, Chopper said:

I'm so happy for Tork. He was getting written off by a lot of us but man he has definitely been a different player this year. Great comeback boys! 

And I was among the loudest of them here.

I want to know what the click moment was for Tork. Remember he was quoted basically saying he’s going to hit the way he wants regardless, implying that he was not going to take advantage of the data science the Tigers offer their players. I’d like to have been a fly on the wall at the moment he snapped out of that. I’m guessing it would have been early spring training in a CTJ meeting with AJ. 

[Sports_Freak]

Here we go....

 

[IdahoBert]

8 minutes ago, chasfh said:

And I was among the loudest of them here.

I want to know what the click moment was for Tork. Remember he was quoted basically saying he’s going to hit the way he wants regardless, implying that he was not going to take advantage of the data science the Tigers offer their players. I’d like to have been a fly on the wall at the moment he snapped out of that. I’m guessing it would have been early spring training in a CTJ meeting with AJ. 

Maybe he did it on his own. Maybe he had a moment like Steve Martin in ‘The Jerk’ and he “found his purpose.“

[Nate7474]

51 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

IDK -  In 2006 JV had one rough start in April but finished May with a 2.55 ERA. Jobe has some work to do to duplicate that, but here's hoping.

(If you are comparing to JV two poor starts in 2005, then that comparison means Jobe should be in Toledo.)

But the other side of the question is there anyone at Toledo that is likely to be any better. Neither Manning or Montero off to particularly impressive starts.

I’m more talking about his inability to put hitters away after getting ahead of the count his first full year. I think that is some of Jobes problem right now. 

[holygoat]

So we give McStinky a lot of crap here -- deservedly so -- but outside of Tork's game-winner, he had the AB of the 9th inning. Fouled off five pitches enroute to an important walk and what was the tying run.

[casimir]

1 hour ago, romad1 said:

Frustration today

Nah…. casimir wants you to know that casimir was never worried about today’s game because casimir knew this one was in the bag.

Enjoy that walk to Cleveland, Jerk Sox.

[Chopper]

19 minutes ago, chasfh said:

And I was among the loudest of them here.

I want to know what the click moment was for Tork. Remember he was quoted basically saying he’s going to hit the way he wants regardless, implying that he was not going to take advantage of the data science the Tigers offer their players. I’d like to have been a fly on the wall at the moment he snapped out of that. I’m guessing it would have been early spring training in a CTJ meeting with AJ. 

Whatever clicked in his head is obviously working. I think he started pressing and never got out of it. Then he probably went into "I'm not a good hitter" mode and that was that. Baseball is so mental. Much more than other sports because it's one on one more than most (except golf). 

[Motor City Sonics]

I've said this since the offseason.   Don't give up on Tork.  He's capable of hitting 30 HR because he already has and that his failure last year was mental.     I know a lot of people here wanted to get rid of him, but I didn't want to give up yet.  I wanted to see what he had in him.     When he decided not to come and work on things in the offseason, my thought was that the guy just needed to step away and clear his head and stop listening to 10 different teachers.     It seems to have worked.  I mean, he's going to go into a slump at some point, but when you START like this, you start believing you can do it and last year, I think mentally he couldn't picture himself succeeding because it was such a severe funk.    I'm happy for him.  

We survived starting vs. the Dodgers on the road now.    But if we can get Tork and Mize to be just 75-80% of what we expect from a 1/1,  we're going to be pretty happy this Summer. 

[IdahoBert]

That flight to Cleveland is going to be a solemn flight. 

[gehringer_2]

6 minutes ago, Nate7474 said:

I’m more talking about his inability to put hitters away after getting ahead of the count his first full year. I think that is some of Jobes problem right now. 

Fair enough - but if there is a difference it's that JV's FB was so live he could throw a lot of it - guys could maybe foul it off and stay alive and drive his pitch count, but he didn't walk them that much. Jobe needs his breaking ball more (doesn't everyone today?) so if guys stay alive against him the probability of the walk goes up because he's going to throw more spin, and his walk rate has been his problem in these two starts. Or the short way to put it is his still has to improve his command, but by nature that is harder throwing more spin than throwing more heat.

[lordstanley]

3 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

That flight to Cleveland is going to be a solemn flight. 

Is a flight to Cleveland ever joyous?

[casimir]

37 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

Greene didn’t hit a three-run homer to end the game, but this was just as dramatic and perhaps even more encouraging. 

Sweeney busting his ass down the line, McKinstry and Ibanez fighting through long plate appearances.  None of those hitters in the 9th tried to hit a walk off home run.  Those were professional plate appearances realizing that the opposing pitchers were simply not up to snuff in that moment.  They were smart, looking for the right pitches to swing at and laying off of stuff they couldn’t do much with.

[casimir]

38 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Now, how do we quiet those damn Yankee bats?

Tune in tomorrow.

[casimir]

38 minutes ago, chasfh said:

If it weren’t for Sweeney hustling to beat that double play throw, it’s two outs and the game is tied on Tork’s hit … maybe. Sweeney created the conditions that led to the specific outcome we saw today.

One might say that was …. gritty.

[Chopper]

2 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

That flight to Cleveland is going to be a solemn flight. 

When you get swept on a heartbreaker, it's going to be a morgue in that plane. ☠️

[romad1]

37 minutes ago, chasfh said:

That’s what’s going to make the Yankees series so interesting: our immovable object of a pitching staff versus their irresistible force of a hitting roster.

and the fact that it will be as cold as the heat death of the universe. 

[gehringer_2]

4 minutes ago, casimir said:

Sweeney busting his ass down the line, McKinstry and Ibanez fighting through long plate appearances.  None of those hitters in the 9th tried to hit a walk off home run.  Those were professional plate appearances realizing that the opposing pitchers were simply not up to snuff in that moment.  They were smart, looking for the right pitches to swing at and laying off of stuff they couldn’t do much with.

Definitely happy for Ibanez since he is off to such a bad start with the bat. Ending that inning would have been a very bad day for him.

[Motor City Sonics]

Is Javy back?      Did the Tigers fix him?      Or at least 75% of what he was?    Nice to see a decent start from him.  He desperately needed that.      He's had some nice swings this year.  

[casimir]

1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said:

Definitely happy for Ibanez since he is off to such a bad start with the bat. Ending that inning would have been a very bad day for him.

It’s kind of ironic how earlier in the game the TV booth was talking about Carpenter getting a chance to face LHP and they brought also brought up Ibanez facing RHP as a parallel.  He had to in the 9th because only Rogers was left on the bench.  And look at that, Ibanez came through in the clutch.  Alright, maybe he did have one bad hack at a low slider, but the result of the plate appearance was the result of the plate appearance.

[Chopper]

1 minute ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Is Javy back?      Did the Tigers fix him?      Or at least 75% of what he was?    Nice to see a decent start from him.  He desperately needed that.      He's had some nice swings this year.  

Let's hope! I'll take what he has given us so far. Maybe the Tork turnaround will rub off on him. 🙏