4/26/25 DH 1:10 & 6:10 Orioles @ Tigers

[Sports_Freak]

55 minutes ago, Tigermojo said:

12-3 start at home.

Best start since 1911 at home. Better than 1984? Impressive.

 

[Sports_Freak]

Skubal's last start was a chance to sweep KC. Tomorrow's start with a chance to sweep Baltimore. 

[chasfh]

34 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Best start since 1911 at home. Better than 1984? Impressive.

 

Thanks. That was the first thought that popped into my head as well.

[chasfh]

Either the Tigers or Skubal himself are weirdly snakebit when he starts. We are 2-3 on those occasions so far.

[IdahoBert]

20 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Either the Tigers or Skubal himself are weirdly snakebit when he starts. We are 2-3 on those occasions so far.

Remember that game last week had high hopes. He’s due for a gem. 

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said:

Best start since 1911 at home. Better than 1984? Impressive.

 

except in '84 they were going undefeated on the road.

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Either the Tigers or Skubal himself are weirdly snakebit when he starts. We are 2-3 on those occasions so far.

the tendency Skubal has to fight is getting too predictable. The FB and Change are so good he tends to lock in,  but you want guys who think about sitting on a change-up to know the next off-speed they get might still be something else.

Edited yesterday at 04:32 AM by gehringer_2

[Hart]

10 hours ago, monkeytargets39 said:

They had every opportunity to acquire pitching last deadline and were too snooty about their prospects to upgrade.  (Orioles)

My guess is most of this board will feel the same way about the idea of trading Max Clark 3 months from now.    

[chasfh]

7 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

the tendency Skubal has to fight is getting too predictable. The FB and Change are so good he tends to lock in,  but you want guys who think about sitting on a change-up to know the next off-speed they get might still be something else.

I’m not sure Skubal isn’t one of those Koufax-types who is so dominant that you can know exactly what’s coming and you can’t hit it anyway.

Anyhow, I do think of him as snakebit because even though the Tigers are 2-3 in his starts, he and his 2.83 ERA aren’t the main reason.

[Tenacious D]

1 hour ago, Hart said:

My guess is most of this board will feel the same way about the idea of trading Max Clark 3 months from now.    

What’s different, though, is that we are not in need of starting pitching.  A SS upgrade might be nice, but I suspect we’d be in the hunt for someone who could be a shutdown, high leverage reliever.  Someone like Josue Briceno is more likely to get dealt to address that, if required.

[RandyMarsh]

This will be the sixth time already this year where we are playing for a sweep.

[romad1]

36 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

This will be the sixth time already this year where we are playing for a sweep.

I'm trying to find the negative in that and I can't.   I may have been away from Michigan too long. 

Edited yesterday at 01:18 PM by romad1

[Sports_Freak]

11 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

Best start since 1911 at home. Better than 1984? Impressive.

 

It looks like in '84, they were 11-4 in their first 15 home games? This years 12-3 is better than 1984....yeah, impressive.

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, RandyMarsh said:

This will be the sixth time already this year where we are playing for a sweep.

Last Skubal start was a chance at a 4 game sweep of KC.

[monkeytargets39]

4 hours ago, Hart said:

My guess is most of this board will feel the same way about the idea of trading Max Clark 3 months from now.    

Perhaps, but we don’t have a glut of blocked prospects and an entire major league roster full of prospects.  With Meadows injury history, we have a clear need for a CF—so there’s an obvious need to hang onto Max.  
 

We also don’t have gaping holes on the ML team that need to be addressed before the playoffs like the Orioles did with their pitching.  If we were to trade Rainer, Lee, and Briceno or Liranzo for an All-Star 3B with 3 years of team control on a relatively inexpensive contract, I don’t think there’d be a ton of complaints.  Clark and McGonigle have clear uses within the future of the club considering current contracts and injury histories to guys ahead of them.

[Tenacious D]

Some combination of Clark and McGonigle will be hitting 1-2 for years to come.  Both are the OBP machines we’ve lacked forever.

I see Briceno as the most tradable, if you believe he can’t stick at C, as most think, and Tork will be at 1B for the foreseeable future.  

[chasfh]

4 hours ago, Hart said:

My guess is most of this board will feel the same way about the idea of trading Max Clark 3 months from now.    

That chances the Tigers trade Max Clark while he is still a top prospect is zero, +/− 0.

[chasfh]

27 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

Some combination of Clark and McGonigle will be hitting 1-2 for years to come.  Both are the OBP machines we’ve lacked forever.

I see Briceno as the most tradable, if you believe he can’t stick at C, as most think, and Tork will be at 1B for the foreseeable future.  

I not only agree, I could see Briceno getting sent away in a package this July.

[IdahoBert]

3 hours ago, chasfh said:

I’m not sure Skubal isn’t one of those Koufax-types who is so dominant that you can know exactly what’s coming and you can’t hit it anyway.

Anyhow, I do think of him as snakebit because even though the Tigers are 2-3 in his starts, he and his 2.83 ERA aren’t the main reason.

When Koufax was asked him how much pleasure he got from striking out people and he shrugged and said it was actually more gratifying to make a pitch that produced a weak pop-up or a simple grounder. This is good advice. 

[SoCalTiger]

I’m keeping Briceno. Great eye and power. 

[Sports_Freak]

4 hours ago, chasfh said:

I’m not sure Skubal isn’t one of those Koufax-types who is so dominant that you can know exactly what’s coming and you can’t hit it anyway.

Anyhow, I do think of him as snakebit because even though the Tigers are 2-3 in his starts, he and his 2.83 ERA aren’t the main reason.

Kinda like a Tigers relief pitcher who throws a change up 75% of the time, or more? 🤣🤣

[chasfh]

48 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

I’m keeping Briceno. Great eye and power. 

Of the Pipeline top 100 guys we have in the minors right now—Max Clark, Kevin McGonigle, Josue Briceno, Thayron Liranzo, and Bryce Rainer—which of these would you be willing to give up this July in exchange for an established major leaguer who gives us a much better chance of going deep into October or even November this year?

[Tiger337]

14 hours ago, chasfh said:

Either the Tigers or Skubal himself are weirdly snakebit when he starts. We are 2-3 on those occasions so far.

Skubal doesn't know how to win.

[SoCalTiger]

7 hours ago, chasfh said:

Of the Pipeline top 100 guys we have in the minors right now—Max Clark, Kevin McGonigle, Josue Briceno, Thayron Liranzo, and Bryce Rainer—which of these would you be willing to give up this July in exchange for an established major leaguer who gives us a much better chance of going deep into October or even November this year?

Hard to answer not knowing the return but none of them which doesn't answer your question. So to be fair maybe Liranzo or Rainer if the return is very solid with multiple years of control. Certainly not for a half season bat or reliever even with years say 1 plus year of control. 

I would prefer to trade from our pitching depth since we seem to develop it so say Montero, Jaden Hamm, Melton, Owen Hall. I think they would bring back a good enough return while maintaining our core minor league talent/depth. 

[SoCalTiger]

7 hours ago, chasfh said:

Of the Pipeline top 100 guys we have in the minors right now—Max Clark, Kevin McGonigle, Josue Briceno, Thayron Liranzo, and Bryce Rainer—which of these would you be willing to give up this July in exchange for an established major leaguer who gives us a much better chance of going deep into October or even November this year?

I will add Colt Keith to that list.