Tiger Cubs (notes on the minors)

[Tenacious D]

  On 2/13/2024 at 9:34 PM, Tigeraholic1 said:

 

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Are those HS batters?

[Shinzaki]

So...he has a 95+ mph FB...a slider, cutter and change that all look like plus pitches.  Future ace...if such a thing will still exist

[LongLiveMaroth]

FG with their top 100 prospects out today.

16. Jobe (Mayer is 69 for those of you tracking at home)
36. Clark (Langford is #2)
46. Keith
48. Jung
 

[LongLiveMaroth]

This is an interesting way to see some prospects.

https://www.mlb.com/news/spring-breakout-faq-2024?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage

[RatkoVarda]

  On 2/15/2024 at 2:43 PM, LongLiveMaroth said:

FG with their top 100 prospects out today.

16. Jobe (Mayer is 69 for those of you tracking at home)
36. Clark (Langford is #2)
46. Keith
48. Jung
 

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so Avila got it right and Harris got it wrong!

[chasfh]

  On 2/10/2024 at 2:45 PM, RandyMarsh said:

Yeah they aren't the easiest to find but it's just wild to me that we've had some relatively highly rated guys but just about all of them have come with the caveat that they can't play defense, like I know it's really tough to find a true two way guy that can hit and is also great in the field but you think we'd be able to find some that at the very least would come with something like "He may never win a gold glove but at the very least he should be able to field a corner position competently". From Nick to Tork to now Keith, JHM and Jung they all seem to not even come with that back ground. 

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The previous regime did not value defense in their draft picks. Nobody is saying any of this about Max Clark or Kevin McGonigle or Carson Rucker. (Max Anderson might be a different deal.)

Yes, it was Harris who took JHM as the best he could get for Joe Jimenez. So maybe he sucks at it, too. 😁

[gehringer_2]

  On 2/15/2024 at 8:46 PM, chasfh said:

The previous regime did not value defense in their draft picks. Nobody is saying any of this about Max Clark or Kevin McGonigle or Carson Rucker. (Max Anderson might be a different deal.)

Yes, it was Harris who took JHM as the best he could get for Joe Jimenez. So maybe he sucks at it, too. 😁

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Avila picked a few MLB caliber gloves, gloves - Adames, Suarez, Workman, Paredes - despite Tiger FO reservations has was a positive glove at 3b in Toronto after the trade

Mostly they either didn't hit or the got traded because other player like two way players too!

[chasfh]

  On 2/15/2024 at 9:44 PM, gehringer_2 said:

Avila picked a few MLB caliber gloves, gloves - Adames, Suarez, Workman, Paredes - despite Tiger FO reservations has was a positive glove at 3b in Toronto after the trade

Mostly they either didn't hit or the got traded because other player like two way players too!

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• Suarez: 2008
• Adames: 2012.
• Paredes: 2017 (trade throw-in)
• Workman: 2020

Four MLB-caliber gloves in twenty-plus years.

Fire Harris!

😉

[gehringer_2]

  On 2/16/2024 at 1:34 PM, chasfh said:

• Suarez: 2008
• Adames: 2012.
• Paredes: 2017 (trade throw-in)
• Workman: 2020

Four MLB-caliber gloves in twenty-plus years.

Fire Harris!

😉

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But considering how many (i.e. few)  bats made it over the same period, you can't really argue the emphasis was any more effectively on hitters! 

Edited February 16, 2024 by gehringer_2

[chasfh]

  On 2/16/2024 at 3:04 PM, gehringer_2 said:

But considering how many (i.e. few)  bats made it over the same period, you can't really argue the emphasis was any more effectively on hitters! 

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I'm old enough to remember hearing that Al Avila was great at drafting the players Scott Harris is now developing.

[RandyMarsh]

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2024-top-100-prospects/

FG top 100. Tigers have 4 with Jobe 16, Clark 36, Keith 46 and Jung 48.

[Toddwert]

  On 2/17/2024 at 9:11 PM, RandyMarsh said:

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2024-top-100-prospects/

FG top 100. Tigers have 4 with Jobe 16, Clark 36, Keith 46 and Jung 48.

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and we could've had no. 2

[SoCalTiger]

  On 2/17/2024 at 11:05 PM, Toddwert said:

and we could've had no. 2

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Yes but hopefully Clark turns out better and plays both sides of the ball and with the money saved we signed Monigle who is top 100 close. So 2 for 1. 

[Sports_Freak]

  On 2/16/2024 at 10:47 PM, chasfh said:

I'm old enough to remember hearing that Al Avila was great at drafting the players Scott Harris is now developing.

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I'm old enough to remember Al calling the rebuild over. Then he got fired. 😅

[1776]

  On 2/17/2024 at 11:46 PM, Sports_Freak said:

I'm old enough to remember Al calling the rebuild over. Then he got fired. 😅

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I believe Chris Illitch is the one that declared the rebuild over.

[Sports_Freak]

  On 2/17/2024 at 11:51 PM, 1776 said:

I believe Chris Illitch is the one that declared the rebuild over.

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Maybe Chris said it first but I saw Avila giving an interview on Fox Sports saying the same thing.

[1776]

  On 2/18/2024 at 1:11 AM, Sports_Freak said:

Maybe Chris said it first but I saw Avila giving an interview on Fox Sports saying the same thing.

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So they were both wrong. 😁

[Tenacious D]

Tigers Acquire LHP Blake Dickerson From Padres for $500K in International Draft money. He was their 12th round pick in 2023, but signed for 4th round money to pass on his commitment to Virginia Tech.  BA had him as the Padres #22 prospect.  He didn’t pitch for them last year—his debut will be this season. 
 

Edited February 18, 2024 by Tenacious D

[LongLiveMaroth]

  On 2/18/2024 at 2:24 AM, Tenacious D said:

Tigers Acquire LHP Blake Dickerson From Padres for $500K in International Draft money. He was their 12th round pick in 2023, but signed for 4th round money to pass on his commitment to Virginia Tech.  BA had him as the Padres #22 prospect.  He didn’t pitch for them last year—his debut will be this season. 
 

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That is an interesting tactic by Harris. He was ranked #158 by pipeline for last year's draft. 

[Edman85]

By my unofficial count, that was the 131st trade involving bonus slot money since that was enabled back in 2013 (And disallowed 2021-22). The first for the Tigers.

[chasfh]

  On 2/17/2024 at 9:11 PM, RandyMarsh said:

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2024-top-100-prospects/

FG top 100. Tigers have 4 with Jobe 16, Clark 36, Keith 46 and Jung 48.

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Even better: Top 50!

I have always respected Fangraphs’ top prospect list far more than MLB’s Pipeline.

[chasfh]

  On 2/18/2024 at 11:58 AM, Edman85 said:

By my unofficial count, that was the 131st trade involving bonus slot money since that was enabled back in 2013 (And disallowed 2021-22). The first for the Tigers.

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Avila might not have ever learned he had the ability to do this. Or, perhaps, he did and concluded it was so complicated he could never have figured out how to pull it off.

[Hongbit]

  On 2/18/2024 at 6:17 PM, chasfh said:

Avila might not have ever learned he had the ability to do this. Or, perhaps, he did and concluded it was so complicated he could never have figured out how to pull it off.

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Assuming that Al saw himself as some sort of expert at International player signing and would never think about trading from that pool.  

[casimir]

  On 2/18/2024 at 6:17 PM, chasfh said:

Avila might not have ever learned he had the ability to do this. Or, perhaps, he did and concluded it was so complicated he could never have figured out how to pull it off.

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  On 2/18/2024 at 6:27 PM, Hongbit said:

Assuming that Al saw himself as some sort of expert at International player signing and would never think about trading from that pool.  

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It must’of been the exchange rate math that tripped him up.

[LongLiveMaroth]