LongLiveMaroth Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Toledo L 7-6 Carp 2/4 2RBI 2B K Tork 1/3 2BB 2B Jung 1/3 RBI BB Sweeney 2/4 2B Leonard 1/4 RBI 2K Lockhart 7IP 8H 7ER 8K Erie W 19-1 (On 14 hits) Cruz 2/4 2RBI BB 2K 2 2B Workman 3/6 7RBI 2K 3HR Burhenn 5IP 2H 2BB 7K WM W 4-1 Clark 1/5 K 2B Anderson 3/4 BB Liranzo 1/5 Marcano 6IP 3H ER 9K Lakeland W 3-1 Montilla 1/3 SB Santana 1/3 RBI K Castillo 5IP 4H ER 2BB 2K 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gilmore Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Franyerber! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Bad news; 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeytargets39 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Ugh. I have tickets and wanted to see him play this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Yeah he's done for the season in WM, may beable to play in the AFL though if the Tigers had intentions of sending him there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Everyone wears the shin and elbow guards but very few guys wear the hand guards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) 1 minute ago, Tigermojo said: Everyone wears the shin and elbow guards but very few guys wear the hand guards. was he hit? seems like it was from swinging, a lot of stress on those bird bones in your hands Edited August 12 by Toddwert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 2 minutes ago, Toddwert said: was he hit? seems like it was from swinging, a lot of stress on those bird bones in your hands I just assumed. I didn't know you can break a bone from swinging. No pun intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 24 minutes ago, Tigermojo said: I just assumed. I didn't know you can break a bone from swinging. No pun intended. I wouldn't like him breaking that bone just swinging. Some type of impact injury would explain it better. Diving for a ball, sliding or hit by pitch. Just swinging a bat? I never heard of that. And it wouldn't be great for the future.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 57 minutes ago, Tigermojo said: I just assumed. I didn't know you can break a bone from swinging. No pun intended. the video saw was him swinging I never heard if he got hit before that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted August 12 Author Share Posted August 12 18 minutes ago, Toddwert said: the video saw was him swinging I never heard if he got hit before that it was his first AB of the game so no prior HBP. He had made one play in the field on a GB prior to his AB.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Sounds like it happened on a foul ball. "The Tigers moved McGonigle to the injured list with a right hamate fracture on Aug. 12. He was replaced on defense in Saturday's High-A West Michigan game after striking out in the first inning. McGonigle fouled off a 1-2 pitch in the at-bat, then asked for time and was seen clutching and shaking his right hand before looking uncomfortable swinging at strike three." Tigers injuries and roster moves (mlb.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 14 minutes ago, Tigermojo said: Sounds like it happened on a foul ball. "The Tigers moved McGonigle to the injured list with a right hamate fracture on Aug. 12. He was replaced on defense in Saturday's High-A West Michigan game after striking out in the first inning. McGonigle fouled off a 1-2 pitch in the at-bat, then asked for time and was seen clutching and shaking his right hand before looking uncomfortable swinging at strike three." Tigers injuries and roster moves (mlb.com) Baseball for most all teams is becoming a game/war of attrition. You need a lot of depth. For example anyone 'penciling' in Greene, Carpenter and Meadows next year as your starting OF (or any starting INF, starting staff, etc.) is fooling themselves. Look at the OF at one point over the weekend: Baddoo, Madris and Vilade. The days of penciling in 8 starting position players for 140+ games and 5 SPs for 150-200 IP are long gone. If a team is 'lucky' they may get 3-4 positional players to do that and 1-2 SPs. So much has changed since we could rattle off the starting lineups for the good teams for so many years. I do like that the team is acquiring talented young INFs. Keith, Jung, Lee, McGonigle, Sweeney, Rainer, etc. To be able to move around a bit may help and they are not real distant in age so some overlapping may indeed help us. SHarris and crew seem to perhaps understand that the game is now this way - that would be very wise 🦉 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 No sound...but it looks good. Is this kid a shortstop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted August 12 Author Share Posted August 12 20 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: No sound...but it looks good. Is this kid a shortstop? he's been a high K guy with a so-so glove so far. I guess no-one is going to worry too much about the glove until he proves he can hit enough to make to the majors - which he does seem to be working at! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longgone Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 19 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: he's been a high K guy with a so-so glove so far. I guess no-one is going to worry too much about the glove until he proves he can hit enough to make to the majors - which he does seem to be working at! People focus too much on stats with developing players. Here’s a guy with some natural bat to ball skills, but some flaws in his swing that were inhibiting his progress. In a year and a half, the yankees reworked his mechanics and then LA took a different approach. You can’t just incorporate these types of changes overnight, it takes time to build muscle memory. You always have to take a step back before you can go forward. If he corrects his flaws and stays with it consistently, you may have something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted August 12 Author Share Posted August 12 42 minutes ago, Longgone said: People focus too much on stats with developing players. Here’s a guy with some natural bat to ball skills, but some flaws in his swing that were inhibiting his progress. In a year and a half, the yankees reworked his mechanics and then LA took a different approach. You can’t just incorporate these types of changes overnight, it takes time to build muscle memory. You always have to take a step back before you can go forward. If he corrects his flaws and stays with it consistently, you may have something. I think I made the observation before that if you are scouting a guy and everything he does already looks right technically but he still gets no results, maybe you'll have more luck with a guy like Sweeney where ( assuming your assessment) you can identify some stuff to work on. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 I'll never forget listening to the broadcast when Frank Beckmann announced that Raul Casanova broke his hamate bone. Lary Sorenson (who was probably drunk) started laughing about how he never heard of a hamate bone. Beckmann scolded him on the air telling him that it wasn't funny. It was a serious injury that would keep him out for a long time. I had never heard a broadcaster getting scloded like that. I knew that there had to be something going on beyond that incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 2 hours ago, Tiger337 said: I'll never forget listening to the broadcast when Frank Beckmann announced that Raul Casanova broke his hamate bone. Lary Sorenson (who was probably drunk) started laughing about how he never heard of a hamate bone. Beckmann scolded him on the air telling him that it wasn't funny. It was a serious injury that would keep him out for a long time. I had never heard a broadcaster getting scloded like that. I knew that there had to be something going on beyond that incident. I had to look it up, I had no idea what it is. Is a hitter breaking that bone just by swing or fouling off a pitch a reason to worry? I could see breaking it getting hit or fouling a pitch off of it but just swinging the bat? Maybe he hurt it sliding or playing defense the day before or something? It seems a bit concerning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeattleMike Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: I think I made the observation before that if you are scouting a guy and everything he does already looks right technically but he still gets no results, maybe you'll have more luck with a guy like Sweeney where ( assuming your assessment) you can identify some stuff to work on. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Harris seemed pretty adamant that the Tigers were very pleased with the two players they received for Flaherty. Probably nothing but perhaps the Tigers saw something with Sweeney the Dodgers and Yankees missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 2 hours ago, Tiger337 said: I'll never forget listening to the broadcast when Frank Beckmann announced that Raul Casanova broke his hamate bone. Lary Sorenson (who was probably drunk) started laughing about how he never heard of a hamate bone. Beckmann scolded him on the air telling him that it wasn't funny. It was a serious injury that would keep him out for a long time. I had never heard a broadcaster getting scloded like that. I knew that there had to be something going on beyond that incident. Had to kill Beckman to work with a guy like that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 13 minutes ago, SeattleMike said: Harris seemed pretty adamant that the Tigers were very pleased with the two players they received for Flaherty. Probably nothing but perhaps the Tigers saw something with Sweeney the Dodgers and Yankees missed. his problem remains in that he hits a massive amount of groundballs NYY and LAD left him at SS when everyone assumed he would to 3B; obviously he is going to get a long look at SS considering the state of the position in Det hopefully, at worst, they have an upgrade on McKinstry. at best, a bridge starter to some teenager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 10 hours ago, Sports_Freak said: Bad news; Admittedly, I don’t know a lot about the human body, except that the foot bone is connected to the leg bone and the leg bone is connected to the knee bone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 33 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said: his problem remains in that he hits a massive amount of groundballs NYY and LAD left him at SS when everyone assumed he would to 3B; obviously he is going to get a long look at SS considering the state of the position in Det hopefully, at worst, they have an upgrade on McKinstry. at best, a bridge starter to some teenager I love Javy's defense. And his baserunning, when he gets on base. But he's basically the worst hitter in MLB. Sacrifice defense for offense? I don't know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 12 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: I love Javy's defense. And his baserunning, when he gets on base. But he's basically the worst hitter in MLB. Sacrifice defense for offense? I don't know... His defense is no longer good enough to carry him for defense only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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