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12 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

from the Cool Your Jets Dept:

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He's 2 and a half years younger than all but Wood and Blalock, and his OPS is at least .200 more than everybody other than Flowers.

None of them are really useful comparisons.

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I couldn't readily find his stats, but it's good to remember Chris Shelton was the league's MVP in 2004.  I wasn't able to watch many games back then so I don't have a good sense of why Shelton failed after his historic start.  What the heck happened to one of the hottest rookie starts in Tigers history? 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Arlington said:

I couldn't readily find his stats, but it's good to remember Chris Shelton was the league's MVP in 2004.  I wasn't able to watch many games back then so I don't have a good sense of why Shelton failed after his historic start.  What the heck happened to one of the hottest rookie starts in Tigers history? 

 

Shelton was not a rookie in 2006. He had 450+ plate appearances the yearbefore as a 25-year-old and posted a 132 OPS+. He started hot in 2006 but faded in June and July and was sent down at the trade deadline. 106 OPS+ in 2006. Only 150 PAs in MLB after that (with Texas and Seattle; 75ish OPS+). Strange decline but also strange some second division club didn't give him 600 PAs to see if he could rediscover his magic. 

Posted
1 hour ago, SeattleMike said:

Shelton was not a rookie in 2006. He had 450+ plate appearances the yearbefore as a 25-year-old and posted a 132 OPS+. He started hot in 2006 but faded in June and July and was sent down at the trade deadline. 106 OPS+ in 2006. Only 150 PAs in MLB after that (with Texas and Seattle; 75ish OPS+). Strange decline but also strange some second division club didn't give him 600 PAs to see if he could rediscover his magic. 

Any idea as to what caused the fall-off?  Seems like the league figured him out and he couldn't adjust

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On 11/15/2024 at 2:27 PM, Arlington said:

Any idea as to what caused the fall-off?  Seems like the league figured him out and he couldn't adjust

Personal life got in the way, I'm betting.

Posted
28 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

Personal life got in the way, I'm betting.

I had thought Shelton had just disappeared but he did knock around the minors for a couple more seasons and in fact was able to OPS at 950+ twice at AAA only crash on call-up each time. So maybe a mental block thing or maybe he had been right on the edge for handling MLB velo or spin and just fell off at a younger age than most. I've always had a theory about guys having career arcs that start young with great reaction time, then build with strength and eventually fall off as vision as reaction time are lost. A great player may cross those limits at 19 and 40 and have a 20yr HOF career in between, a marginal player may only get a couple of years in his mid to late 20's when he peaks high enough to stay in the majors.

Posted
5 hours ago, Edman85 said:

Personal life got in the way, I'm betting.

I would bet that a lot players have gone through what he went through and eventually came back...However, everyone is different, so who knows?  

Posted
12 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

No mention yet of the Tigers signing Jahmai Jones to a minor league deal today?  Seems like nice insurance in Toledo.  Good AAA numbers, bats RH, maybe they can help him.

Insurance in case they need McStinkys roster spot. 

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