gehringer_2 Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, Edman85 said: Well, to be fair the fanboy accounts tweet out highlights and can be misleading. This is a good example of that. This play had the hot dog but little meat. It didn't tell you anything about range - it was right to him, nor quickness, it was not hit hard, and the throw was on the short side, he was playing shallow. So nice play to look at, but not a particularly helpful one for overall evaluation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Edman85 said: Well, to be fair the fanboy accounts tweet out highlights and can be misleading. If we’re being fair, the Tweet never commented on the quality of the throw, only that he made a terrific barehanded play. That part is true—if he doesn’t field it cleanly, and barehanded, he doesn’t have a shot at getting him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Jobe with 4IP 3K 3ER and Gold with 3/4 BB and 4 SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Edman85 said: Well, to be fair the fanboy accounts tweet out highlights and can be misleading. I don't know where he started at the beginning of the play, but based on the timing of the video and the fact that he was waiting for the ball at third base, I would guess that he was shaded very far towards the third base line to start the play. You really can't tell anything about his ability from one play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: This is a good example of that. This play had the hot dog but little meat. It didn't tell you anything about range - it was right to him, nor quickness, it was not hit hard, and the throw was on the short side, he was playing shallow. So nice play to look at, but not a particularly helpful one for overall evaluation. Yes, the play doesn't tell me anything about his skills. Cabrera can probably make one play like that if he gets lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holygoat Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Tenacious D said: If we’re being fair, the Tweet never commented on the quality of the throw, only that he made a terrific barehanded play. That part is true—if he doesn’t field it cleanly, and barehanded, he doesn’t have a shot at getting him out. That's what I took from it -- that he had the presence of mind to barehand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 16 hours ago, Tenacious D said: Should he have charged that ball to get it on the big hop rather than laying back ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said: Should he have charged that ball to get it on the big hop rather than laying back ? he certainly could have - that would be the conventional play, and he'd be moving in on the throw, which is helpful. But I hesitate to say a guy did it wrong if he got the out - adding the time for the transfer might have ended up IFH. Conversely, deciding to use your right hand adds risk because even if you are good with your right hand if the ball picks up some spin you're not likely to hold on. It all depends on how fast Keith believed he could make the transfer and throw if he charges and whether he was right about what he believed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 Mudhens winners. Parker 2/4 2B, BB. Keith 0/4 BB, Malloy - DNP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Toledo W 7-3 Meadows 2/4 2B BB K Keith 0/4 BB K Solak 3/5 2B 2RBI Nevin 1/4 BB 2K Wentz 4.2IP 8H 2ER 3K 3BB Erie GM1 W 1-0 Cruz 1/3 2K Bigbie 0/2 BB Perez 0/3 K Serretti 0/2 Gipson-Long 5IP 4H 6K Erie GM2 W 9-2 Cruz 1/3 BB K Bigbie 1/4 K Perez 3/3 RBI BB HR Serretti 1/3 2B RBI Montero 5IP 2ER BB 9K WM W 4-2 Allen 0/3 BB 3K Jung 1/2 2BB 2B 2SB Campos 2/4 4RBI HR SB Pacheco 0/3 BB Lakeland L 11-5 Gold 1/5 2B Bastidas 2/4 K Stephenson 1/5 2SB Fr. Perez .02IP H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 The Jobe selection rightly gets some heat, but the 2021 draft looks pretty good right now. All 21 are still in the organization. Some lower round guys are performing. I just wanted to point this out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Dillon Dingler to the Injured List. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topliner1903 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 22 hours ago, LongLiveMaroth said: WM W 4-2 Jung 1/2 2BB 2B 2SB Jung steals bases? Cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 FCL W 3-2 Briceno 1/5 SB Campbell 2/4 2B RBI K SB Gil 0/3 BB K Perez 0/3 BB K Campbell is interesting to me, he has been all over the diamond (C,3B,1B) and he is another signing out of ANZ and 19 years old. I have no scouting report on him but he has been putting up good numbers in the FCL this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 What’s with IF Corey Joyce in Toledo? Has he suddenly found something or is this just a short term mirage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Toledo L 4-3 Meadows 1/3 RBI 2B (22 on the year) Keith 0/3 RBI 2K Sands 2/4 Faedo 5IP ER 9K JHM to the 7-day DL Erie W 3-0 Cruz 1/5 K Bigbie 1/4 K Perez 3/4 RBI 3B Serretti 0/4 K Madden 4.2IP 2H 2BB 8K Bergner 1.1IP H 2K WM W 4-0 Allen 2/4 BB Jung 0/4 BB Campos 1/4 2B RBI BB K Pacheco 2/5 RBI Lakeland W 4-3 Gold 1/5 3RBI 2B Sequera 0/3 BB Bastidas 1/4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 12 hours ago, casimir said: What’s with IF Corey Joyce in Toledo? Has he suddenly found something or is this just a short term mirage? He started really hot with Toledo with a .313/.436/.516 stat line for May but has cooled off quite a bit since then. June he had a .216/.397/.353 stat line so still walking at a good clip but not much power and for July he is .200/.273/.550 so honestly probably just a SSS thing but something to keep an eye on. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 32 minutes ago, LongLiveMaroth said: He started really hot with Toledo with a .313/.436/.516 stat line for May but has cooled off quite a bit since then. June he had a .216/.397/.353 stat line so still walking at a good clip but not much power and for July he is .200/.273/.550 so honestly probably just a SSS thing but something to keep an eye on. Thanks. I hadn't looked at his monthly splits. I just figured it was short term success given his previous seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 Parker 2/3 HR. K rate for July <25%. It's time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Parker 2/3 HR. K rate for July <25%. It's time. For who? Baddoo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 20 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: For who? Baddoo? That's logical, but Baddoo is a platoon player and I want Meadows playing every day, like Keith and Malloy. So I'd rather not call him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said: That's logical, but Baddoo is a platoon player and I want Meadows playing every day, like Keith and Malloy. So I'd rather not call him up. Green, Meadows Vierling, Carpenter, Cabrera are sharing 3 OF + DH and Cabrera only plays 50% and they want to rest Riley more the rest of the way so the other three can all have >80% of maximum AB. Works for me. I like Baddoo, but he's done pretty close to zero since June other than the one game this week. It's not enough. Edited July 20, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Green, Meadows Vierling, Carpenter, Cabrera are sharing 3 OF + DH and Cabrera only plays 50% and they want to rest Riley more the rest of the way so the other three can all have >80% of maximum AB. Works for me. I like Baddoo, but he's done pretty close to zero since June other than the one game this week. It's not enough. That's fine except we've seen too much of Haase and Ibanez in the outfield and there's no reason to assume that it won't continue, that they won't take playing time away from Meadows. I agree that Baddoo hasn't done enough to keep his spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeattleMike Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 30 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Green, Meadows Vierling, Carpenter, Cabrera are sharing 3 OF + DH and Cabrera only plays 50% and they want to rest Riley more the rest of the way so the other three can all have >80% of maximum AB. Works for me. I like Baddoo, but he's done pretty close to zero since June other than the one game this week. It's not enough. Meadows will probably hit like Baddoo but his defense will add so much more value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 30 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said: That's fine except we've seen too much of Haase and Ibanez in the outfield and there's no reason to assume that it won't continue, that they won't take playing time away from Meadows. I agree that Baddoo hasn't done enough to keep his spot. Since it's not my team, my money nor my roster to manage, I have no qualms about saying after 6 or 7 yrs I'm ready for them to stop giving such long leashes to players that would be pretty flawed even under their best upside.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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