Edman85 Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 Did the Tigers get more for cash considerations on the trade deadline than they got for Lorenzen? I will hang up and listen. 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted August 24, 2023 Author Posted August 24, 2023 32 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: Eddys Leonard 2-3 with a HR and a walk tonight. Now sporting a tidy .964 OPS in Toledo since we acquired him. I am interested in how his glove ends up rating. The game we say him play he only had a couple of chances, looked good on one, didn't make the out on the other. Quote
casimir Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 9 hours ago, RandyMarsh said: Eddys Leonard 2-3 with a HR and a walk tonight. Now sporting a tidy .964 OPS in Toledo since we acquired him. What's his OPS since he's been a teammate of Maton? That's the real question. Quote
LongLiveMaroth Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 Toledo L 10-7 Perez 2/5 2B HR RBI K Malloy 1/3 2BB K SB Keith 2/5 2B Lipcius 2/5 K Leonard 2/4 3RBI BB HR Kriedler 1/4 K Montero 5IP 9H 5ER 4K Erie L 8-6 Bigbie 2/5 3RBI 2HR Jung 2/4 BB 2K Bergner 2IP 4K 2BB 2H WM L 8-7 Gold 4/5 2B RBI K SF Workman 0/4 2BB K Allen 2/5 RBI BB HR 2B Pacheco 3/5 Lakeland L 5-2 Stephenson 2/5 RBI K HR SB Santana 0/2 2BB Jarvis 0/3 Anderson 1/4 RBI 2K 1 Quote
mtutiger Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 Eddys Leonard looks like a real find.... Quote
Edman85 Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 Lakeland is going to have to make six roster moves to accommodate. West Michigan is currently one down, so somebody could get promoted. Otherwise, we could see some cuts or players shipped back to the complex. Quote
Tiger337 Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 Every time I see "Eddys Leonard", I think of "Eddie Leon". That's Cleveland/Chicago White Sox and a low rarity score. 1 Quote
RatkoVarda Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 47 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Eddys Leonard looks like a real find.... nice problem to have, but it will be interesting to see how they get ML looks through 2024 at all of Keith, W Perez, Leonard, Kriedler (if he can stay healthy), and Lipcius (if he is still in their plans), along with Jung. Those 6 combined with Maton, McKinstry, Vierling, Short and Ibanez give Harris lots of options, but maybe only one (Keith) or two (Keith and Jung?) are ML starter caliber, the rest are bench bats, platoon bats, utility guys, and AAAA guys. Nevin, even though he is raking, I assume will lose his 40 man spot; as will Isan Diaz. Quote
Edman85 Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 My bad. Didn't realize FCL ended Tuesday. So, yeah. All those promotions aren't a coincidence. They want those guys playing. 1 Quote
1984Echoes Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 2 hours ago, RatkoVarda said: nice problem to have, but it will be interesting to see how they get ML looks through 2024 at all of Keith, W Perez, Leonard, Kriedler (if he can stay healthy), and Lipcius (if he is still in their plans), along with Jung. Those 6 combined with Maton, McKinstry, Vierling, Short and Ibanez give Harris lots of options, but maybe only one (Keith) or two (Keith and Jung?) are ML starter caliber, the rest are bench bats, platoon bats, utility guys, and AAAA guys. Nevin, even though he is raking, I assume will lose his 40 man spot; as will Isan Diaz. I'm still voting for Wenceel to surprise steal the starting 2B spot... Quote
RatkoVarda Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said: I'm still voting for Wenceel to surprise steal the starting 2B spot... that would be great, but how likely is it that Keith and Wenceel are both starting infielders, with Meadows in CF, and Malloy at LF/DH? Quote
1984Echoes Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said: that would be great, but how likely is it that Keith and Wenceel are both starting infielders, with Meadows in CF, and Malloy at LF/DH? Only as likely as they are able to show on the field and at the bat... Quote
Tiger337 Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 2 hours ago, RatkoVarda said: that would be great, but how likely is it that Keith and Wenceel are both starting infielders, with Meadows in CF, and Malloy at LF/DH? I think we can reasonably expect one of them to become a solid MLB regular next year. If two of them achieve that status, it would be a big success. Any more than that is very improbable. Quote
1984Echoes Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 I have no interest whatsoever in statistical probability. The only thing I care about is on-the-field production. It's the only thing that matters. Probabilities do not. 1 Quote
Tiger337 Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 Just now, 1984Echoes said: I have no interest whatsoever in statistical probability. The only thing I care about is on-the-field production. It's the only thing that matters. Probabilities do not. Other than a few games of Meadows, none of them have on field production in the majors.. So, it's either statistical probabilities or hopes and dreams at this point. I certainly hope all four of them become good MLB starters, but I don't think that is likely. Quote
1984Echoes Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 Malloy is going to get some run at DH/ part-time OF'er, Keith is going to get some run at 3B, and Parker in CF. Wenceel will get some run as (A) utility? (B) platoon at 2B + utility? (C) starter at 2B? Unknown on Wenceel... but I think the other 3 guys will at least get lots of chances to take on significant playing time for the Tigers over the next 3+ years. Which... doesn't guarantee anything... But I think they'll get their chances. We'll see what happens/ what they do with their chances. At the very least will make for an interesting/ challenging next few years... Quote
buddha Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 41 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: I have no interest whatsoever in statistical probability. The only thing I care about is on-the-field production. It's the only thing that matters. Probabilities do not. oh 84...lol. Quote
Edman85 Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) I'm trying to figure out how probability and on-field production are mutually exclusive, when teams have 10-100 person analytics departments whose primary goal is to quantify the probability of on-field production. Edited August 24, 2023 by Edman85 Quote
Sports_Freak Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Tiger337 said: Other than a few games of Meadows, none of them have on field production in the majors.. So, it's either statistical probabilities or hopes and dreams at this point. I certainly hope all four of them become good MLB starters, but I don't think that is likely. I heard one guy mention that some of our depth may be used in trades. We'll see what Harris pulls off. Quote
Tenacious D Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: I heard one guy mention that some of our depth may be used in trades. We'll see what Harris pulls off. I wonder if the Padres might need to unload a contract? Quote
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