Tiger Cubs (notes on the minors)

[Jim Cowan]

Yeah, I was just being a smart ass.  Everything you hear about him is positive.

[Tigeraholic1]

15 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said:

Yeah, I was just being a smart ass.  Everything you hear about him is positive.

Except his cleats.

[1984Echoes]

13 hours ago, microline133 said:

The average OPS in the Florida State League so far this season is .663. Clark is fine.

Do you know why Cristian Santana is struggling so much...?

[Tigermojo]

Malloy back in the lineup for Toledo today.  Jung out again. Madden starting.

Edited May 12, 2024 by Tigermojo

[microline133]

1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said:

Do you know why Cristian Santana is struggling so much...?

Because he has zero pitch recognition ability.

[casimir]

2 hours ago, Jim Cowan said:

Yeah, I was just being a smart ass.

That’s different. 🤣

[1984Echoes]

4 minutes ago, microline133 said:

Because he has zero pitch recognition ability.

That sucks.

[kdog]

Quote

Top 15
1. Jackson Holliday, 2B/SS, Orioles
2. Paul Skenes, RHP, Pirates
3. Junior Caminero, 3B/SS, Rays
4. Wyatt Langford, OF, Rangers
5. James Wood, OF, Nationals
6. Ethan Salas, C, Padres
7. Dylan Crews, OF, Nationals
8. Walker Jenkins, OF, Twins
9. Jordan Lawlar, SS, D-backs
10. Jackson Jobe, RHP, Tigers
11. Colson Montgomery, SS, White Sox
12. Marcelo Mayer, SS, Red Sox
13. Max Clark, OF, Tigers
14. Samuel Basallo, C/1B, Orioles
15. Pete Crow-Armstrong, OF, Cubs

https://www.mlb.com/news/updated-top-100-prospects-list-for-may-2024?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage

[gehringer_2]

any kind of background noise at all about trying Jung at SS? It seems like a if a guy can play 3B he's got some arm,  and if he can play 2B he's got a little glove, and your system's need for a SS is close to dire, it might be worth at least an audition.

Edited May 13, 2024 by gehringer_2

[4hzglory]

2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

any kind of background noise at all about trying Jung at SS? It seems like a if a guy can play 3B he's got some arm,  and if he can play 2B he's got a little glove, and your system's need for a SS is close to dire, it might be worth at least an audition.

One of the reasons they moved him to 3rd was his lack of range-don’t think Short is an option at all.

[gehringer_2]

Just now, 4hzglory said:

One of the reasons they moved him to 3rd was his lack of range-don’t think Short is an option at all.

Interesting.  Have assumed so far that it was mostly about Keith's move to 2b blocking him there. 

[4hzglory]

12 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Interesting.  Have assumed so far that it was mostly about Keith's move to 2b blocking him there. 

From pipeline’s write up on Jung

That’s if he sticks at second base. Jung was a surprise Rawlings Minor League Gold Glove winner given his pre-Draft reputation, but he impressed Tigers officials and Minor League managers with his ability to handle what’s hit to him with his good hands. However, his lack of range limits his defensive ceiling up the middle, and his trial at third coincided with Colt Keith getting looks at the keystone. Jung’s offensive ability is too good to ignore, and should he keep hitting the right benchmarks, he'll remain valuable in the lineup regardless of his defensive spot.

[Jim Cowan]

42 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Interesting.  Have assumed so far that it was mostly about Keith's move to 2b blocking him there. 

That's what I thought too, they basically traded places.  There was something about Keith that they didn't like at third, but everybody seems satisfied with him at second. 

[1984Echoes]

Sunday night games:

 

Toledo Loses to St. Paul 5-4

Meadows 1-5, double 1 K, .499 OPS

Urshela 3-3 all singles but he seems ready to get back to MLB...

Malloy 0-3, 1 BB, .868 OPS

Bigbie 1-4, .685 OPS

Dingler 1-3, single-SF, .726 OPS

All singles today except for Parker's double...

Madden 5 IP's, 3 H 3 BB's 7 K's 1 ER, 7.50 ERA in Toledo (7 runs in 3 1st AAA start, 2 ER's in 4 - 2nd, 1 ER in 5 today = he's getting better handling AAA batters...?)

Flores gave up 4 ER's in 1 inning, 6.04 ERA

 

Erie Wins 7-0 over Richmond 

Workman 1-4, .896 OPS

Lee 3-4, 2 HR's & 5 RBI's, .793 OPS

Trei Cruz 2-4, .646 OPS

Ya know: Trei Cruz is a SS and he's in Erie... I don't know if that gets us anywhere... he's mostly struggled in the minors and .646 is not "fantastic" or anything.... I'm just saying... He's in the Cruz bloodline so...?)

Lockhart (2021-9th rounder from the Dodgers, 26 yo LH'er) 5 IP's, 1 H 2 BB's 2 K's, 1.93 ERA

 

WM Loses to Ft. Wayne 7-6 

Anderson 2-5, (2) doubles, .748 OPS

Gold 3-5, single-double-HR, .998 OPS

Campos 2-4, single-double 1 BB, .770 OPS

Dylan Smith 6 BB's in 4 inn's (ewww), still has a 3.03 ERA though with 0 ER's today. But a 1.48 WHIP.

 

Lakeland Wins 6-4 over Daytona

McGonigle 1-4, .806 OPS

Clark 2-4, singles, .695 OPS

Briceno 1-2, triple, 1 BB, .831 OPS

Jose De La Cruz, 2-4, 2 singles, .726 OPS

[1984Echoes]

1 hour ago, Jim Cowan said:

That's what I thought too, they basically traded places.  There was something about Keith that they didn't like at third, but everybody seems satisfied with him at second. 

I think he was getting arm soreness at 3B so they brought him over to 2B to lessen the throws for him...

[gehringer_2]

19 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

I think he was getting arm soreness at 3B

FWIW - there was one story that said the thing he did to his shoulder sliding into the base was going to take 2 yrs to heal "completely", so possibly a continuing deficit there  - at least coming into this season.

Edited May 13, 2024 by gehringer_2

[1984Echoes]

PS: On Tork's 2020 Draft:

1. Torkelson

2. Dingler

2B (comp) Daniel Cabrera

3. Trei Cruz

4. Gage Workman

5. Colten Keith

UDFA: Wilmer Flores

 

Trei Cruz & Workman appear to be making a bit of a move upwards with their hit tools. Gage obviously moreso than Trei. The only real laggard at the moment is Danny Cabrera and he was supposed to have a great hit tool which hasn't panned out.

Aside from Tork's struggles... there is still a lot of "potential" (dirty word, sorry...) coming out of this draft. 

On the whole...

[RatkoVarda]

On 5/13/2024 at 11:25 AM, 1984Echoes said:

PS: On Tork's 2020 Draft:

1. Torkelson

2. Dingler

2B (comp) Daniel Cabrera

3. Trei Cruz

4. Gage Workman

5. Colten Keith

UDFA: Wilmer Flores

the spread here is pretty wide: could be 2, or even 3 starters + a bench guy; or could be jack s***; only given is Cabrera is toast

[1984Echoes]

Tuesday games:

 

Toledo: Postponed

 

Erie Loses to Harrisburg 5-1 

Nothing good here:

\Workman 0-3, 2 K's, .871 OPS

Lee 0-3, 1 K, .774 OPS

Trei Cruz 0-2, 1BB, .639 OPS

 

WM Loses to Peoria 1-0 

Nothing good here:

Anderson 0-4, 2 K's, .726 OPS

Gold 0-3, 1 BB 1 K, .978 OPS

Campos 0-3, 1 BB 2 K's, .754 OPS

 

Lakeland Loses to Ft. Myers 11-8 

McGonigle 1-5, 2 K's, .302 BA, .769 OPS

Clark 1-4, 1 BB, .250 BA, .693 OPS

[gehringer_2]

33 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

Clark 1-4, 1 BB, .250 BA, .693 OPS

Hit and walk seems to be Max's day at the office.

[Topliner1903]

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

Hit and walk seems to be Max's day at the office.

And two stolen bases. I think he has 10 now.

[LongLiveMaroth]

 

 

[1984Echoes]

Wednesday games:

 

Toledo - Postponed due to weather again. two games tomorrow and two games Sunday to make up...

 

Erie Loses to Harrisburg 7-4 

Workman 1-5, double, .859 OPS

Lee 0-5, 2 K's, .743 OPS

Trei Cruz 1-3, 1 BB-double, .655 OPS

 

WM Wins 3-1 in 10 Inn's over Peoria  

Anderson 2-5, (2) singles, .729 OPS

Gold 1-5, single, .955 OPS

Campos 1-4, single-HBP 3 K's, .751 OPS

Joe Miller (2022-11th rounder, 24 yo LH'er), 5 Inn's, 1 H 1 BB 5 K's, 1.00 ERA. Hasn't looked good the past two years but looks great so far in a small sample size this year: 27 Inn's 34 K's 0.78 WHIP and 1.00 ERA. 124 K's overall in 108 Inn's so he has... maybe something good? Lower ranks though...

 

Lakeland Wins 16-1 over Ft. Myers (!!!!!!)

McGonigle 2-3, single-HR 2 BB's, .870 OPS

Clark 2-5, singles 1 BB, .702 OPS

Jake Miller (2022-8th rounder, 22 yo LH'er), 5 inn's 5 H's 0 BB 4K's, 0.44 ERA. Hasn't looked good the past two years but looks great so far in a small sample size this year: 20 Inn's 28 K's 0.93 WHIP and 0.44 ERA. 91 K's overall in 70 Inn's so he has... maybe something good? Lower ranks though...

 

 

 

Edited May 16, 2024 by 1984Echoes

[LongLiveMaroth]

 

 

[casimir]

12 hours ago, 1984Echoes said:

Wednesday games:

 

Toledo - Postponed due to weather again. two games tomorrow and two games Sunday to make up...

Will Manning get any of those doubleheader starts?