Tiger Cubs (notes on the minors)

[1984Echoes]

45 minutes ago, Longgone said:

If you're not going to play Baddoo every day, leave him in Toledo.

He can't hit lefties.

Platoon him.

In MLB.

[Longgone]

45 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

Disagree—he’s fine in a platoon.  He’d get 70% of the AB’s anyway 

He's an unfinished product. Let him learn to hit all types of pitching.

[SoCalTiger]

If we platoon in left then that’s four outfielders so Reyes is out or he platoons with Badoo. But Willie Castro’s production as a righfielder can’t be ignored. Can’t believe I said that but the stats are real good and his defense and arm plays in right. I think he will continue to get playing time there so we will see. 
Meadows position is DH. The Miggy situation could get sticky in 2023. 
 

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, Longgone said:

He's an unfinished product. Let him learn to hit all types of pitching.

That is probably best.  Being rushed to the Majors (due to Rule 5) may be the reason for his shortcomings.  If not for Rule 5, he probably would have spent last year in AA and this year in AAA.    

[casimir]

4 hours ago, 1984Echoes said:

Not enough. 

Cameron has hit above AA. Also not enough, but I still believe he has a useful bat in there somewhere. Too bad it isn't his dad's bat. I mean, Willi probably also has enough of a bat in there somewhere... it periodically shows up. But he's still crap in the OF. I prefer EXACTLY what Tenacious said several posts later:

I think Cameron still has a chance to be long term. But he does need to show something more than what he has. So yeah, at this point only Baddoo is showing enough to be long term.

But speaking to what Tenacious posted... Baddoo is still struggling against LH'ers as far as I know. So... Baddoo/ Cameron platoon. Reyes still stays the 4th OF'er. 

If Cameron is facing roughly 3 LH'ers per week, plus PH opportunities (and vice verse for Baddoo), on a pretty much consistent basis (as close to it as he can get)... then maybe he pops against LH'ers and shows he could deserve some extra playing time. Maybe he even pushes Meadows to DH next year.. who knows? 

It’s nothing but if, if, if with Cameron.  I think he’s DFAed after this season.  He can’t hit.  The numbers support that.

[casimir]

31 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

If we platoon in left then that’s four outfielders so Reyes is out or he platoons with Badoo. But Willie Castro’s production as a righfielder can’t be ignored. Can’t believe I said that but the stats are real good and his defense and arm plays in right. I think he will continue to get playing time there so we will see. 
Meadows position is DH. The Miggy situation could get sticky in 2023. 
 

I think when Meadows is healthy, the cooler of CastroW/Clemens get demoted.  And actually, since Clemens probably has a bit more positional versatility with what is needed as a backup in the IF, Clemens may have a bit of a leg up there.

Baddoo may have to wait for an injury, a trade, a slump, or September to get back to Detroit.

[Jim Cowan]

Baddoo with a 3 run homer tonight, Hens are losing 15-4 in the 5th.

[casimir]

5 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said:

Baddoo with a 3 run homer tonight, Hens are losing 15-4 in the 5th.

The homer made it 4-1 Toledo.  This must’of angered the Omahas.

[Jim Cowan]

Now it's 20 - 6, Omaha has 27 hits and 9 home runs.

[mtutiger]

10 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said:

Now it's 20 - 6, Omaha has 27 hits and 9 home runs.

Another nice game for Baddoo tho. 2-4, 2B, HR, BB, 3 RBI

[Jim Cowan]

1 minute ago, mtutiger said:

Another nice game for Baddoo tho. 2-4, 2B, HR, BB, 3 RBI

Yes, his batting average is .303 and hid OPS is .942.

[Tenacious D]

56 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said:

Now it's 20 - 6, Omaha has 27 hits and 9 home runs.

Ironically. West Michigan put up 20 runs in their win.  How many HR’s contributed to this total?: 0

[Jim Cowan]

Wenceel 2 for 4, with a BB and a steal.  OPS at Erie is .845.

[buddha]

what's the bright spots in the minors this year?

wenceel, carpenter.  anyone else?  is parker a bright spot?

some of the pitchers?  

[mtutiger]

22 minutes ago, buddha said:

what's the bright spots in the minors this year?

wenceel, carpenter.  anyone else?  is parker a bright spot?

some of the pitchers?  

Considering where he was at the beginning of the year, Parker Meadows would qualify as a bright spot IMO. 

Not necessarily an all inclusive list, and others MMV, but here's a few I'd say qualify.

Upper Minors: Wenceel, Carpenter, Meadows, Lipcius, Hill (as we saw yesterday), Flores, Olson, Bergner

Lower Minors: Ty Madden, Brant Hurter, Colt Keith (when he wasn't injured), Josh Crouch, Izaac Pacheco, Manuel Sequera (good power #'s, needs to make more consistent contact), Garrett Burhenn

The big question I have is with the some of the position players who have broken out (ie. Carpenter) or have seen their stock rebound (ie. Wenceel, Lipcius, Meadows) is whether they can go beyond the expectation of being slotted as utility/depth guys at the big league level. Or in the case of Carpenter the perception of being a AAAA guy. Skeptical, but who knows.

Edited July 5, 2022 by mtutiger

[1776]

12 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

Ironically. West Michigan put up 20 runs in their win.  How many HR’s contributed to this total?: 0

No home runs!?!

Manfred would be disappointed. They’ll need to fix that. 

[RandyMarsh]

https://www.mlb.com/prospects

Pipeline updated top 100 and Riley is number 1! Of course he's going to exhaust his prospect status shortly but still it's got to be the first time in forever that the Tigers had the number 1 ranked prospect on any of these type of lists. BTW the only other Tiger to make the list is Jobe at number 26. 

[Shinzaki]

No Flores?  That's a bit of a shock

[RandyMarsh]

Also of note is that Austin Martin completely dropped out of the top 100 after previously being ranked 55th, just pointing this out cause he probably would have been the pick if it wasn't for Tork so despite Tork's struggles if we went with Martin instead it probably would be even worse. 

[mtutiger]

1 hour ago, Shinzaki said:

No Flores?  That's a bit of a shock

My understanding is that there will be a much more comprehensive rerank in August after the current draft. They kinda qualified this rerank in their accompanying article

Edited July 6, 2022 by mtutiger

[LongLiveMaroth]

2 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

My understanding is that there will be a much more comprehensive rerank in August after the current draft. They kinda qualified this rerank in their accompanying article

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if two of the three Flores, Madden, Olsen make it for the 100 list. 

[mtutiger]

4 minutes ago, LongLiveMaroth said:

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if two of the three Flores, Madden, Olsen make it for the 100 list. 

Flores and Madden seem like decent bets... with Madden, I remember one of the Pipeline guys last year on their podcast (can't remember if it was Callis or Mayo) suggesting he could be one of the earliest 2021 draft picks to make the major leagues. 

Nothing he has done to date suggests otherwise.

Edited July 6, 2022 by mtutiger

[Tenacious D]

50 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

Also of note is that Austin Martin completely dropped out of the top 100 after previously being ranked 55th, just pointing this out cause he probably would have been the pick if it wasn't for Tork so despite Tork's struggles if we went with Martin instead it probably would be even worse. 

I had looked up his stats a few weeks back and was surprised at how mediocre he looked (and that might be generous).  I was on his bandwagon for awhile.  Glad to be proven wrong.

[Jim Cowan]

Toledo dropped both ends of a doubleheader, Baddoo was a combined 1-for-6 with a BB and a stolen base.  He played both games, while the other guys - Hill, Cameron, Carpenter, Meadows - played one each and Robson didn't play at all except to pinch hit late in the second game.  So it seems like getting Baddoo back in the groove is a priority when playing time is divvied up.

[Archie]

I would take Baddoo over Grossman in the OF.  Baddoo has higher potential than Grossman since he still has some development to do.  What you see with Grossman is about all you will get and it isn't much.