Tiger Cubs (notes on the minors)

[gehringer_2]

Wilmer Flores with 4 IP of 1 hit ball as Erie wins one 1-0 on a Meadows HR.

[gehringer_2]

32 minutes ago, kdog said:

Tork hits a 3 run homer for toledo.

 

16 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

Carpenter homers

Add Kreidler!

[RandyMarsh]

Nice to go to Toledo's box score and see Tork, Carpenter and Kriedler all homering, that's the Mud Hen hat trick right now. 

[RatkoVarda]

Kreidler homers

[1984Echoes]

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

Wilmer Flores with 4 IP of 1 hit ball as Erie wins one 1-0 on a Meadows HR.

Parker Meadows and Flores making power moves to advance to the next level...

[RandyMarsh]

Bunch of promotions down on the farm!

 

[gehringer_2]

4 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

Bunch of promotions down on the farm!

 

quite the comeback for Lipcius, who was pretty much given up for dead before this year IIRC.

[1984Echoes]

PS: I've been down on Parker Meadows for a couple years now...

But since June 3rd, in 41 games in Erie, 180 PA's: .311 BA, .911 OPS, with 7 HR's and 3-1 SB's to CS's.

I guess that's what I mean that he's making a power move to get to the next level. If he regains his prospect status to what it was thought he could do at the time of the draft... he could turn out to be big time player in our OF in the near future...

I had basically written him off.

[Scottwood]

The Tigers have a bottom 10 farm system now on Fangraphs with Riley Greene graduating from prospect status. 

[SoCalTiger]

2 hours ago, Scottwood said:

The Tigers have a bottom 10 farm system now on Fangraphs with Riley Greene graduating from prospect status. 

Is that the “sustainable “ system Al keeps talking about ?

[Edman85]

3 hours ago, Scottwood said:

The Tigers have a bottom 10 farm system now on Fangraphs with Riley Greene graduating from prospect status. 

Should have kept Greene down to keep the system strong.

[casimir]

1 hour ago, Edman85 said:

Should have kept Greene down to keep the system strong.

Or they could draft & develop a strong system such that one graduate doesn't spiral the minor system to the bottom third.

[mtutiger]

10 minutes ago, casimir said:

Or they could draft & develop a strong system such that one graduate doesn't spiral the minor system to the bottom third.

Was it just one graduation? I dont know what Tork's impact to graduation was on FG.

Either way, it isn't particularly the fall of the system that bothers me, rankings will fluctuate even for teams percieved to have good farms based on graduations and trades; it's that all these graduations have led to what will likely end up being a 67 win team. 

Edited August 3, 2022 by mtutiger

[RandyMarsh]

17 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Was it just one graduation? I dont know what Tork's impact to graduation was on FG.

Either way, it isn't particularly the fall of the system that bothers me, rankings will fluctuate even for teams percieved to have good farms based on graduations and trades; it's that all these graduations have led to what will likely end up being a 67 win team. 

Yup,a few years ago the white Sox had a top 5ish system only to fall to bottom 5 due to graduations/trades but since all those moves helped them making the playoffs multiple times it really wasn't that big of deal. Are situation is quite different than that. 

[casimir]

1 hour ago, mtutiger said:

Was it just one graduation? I dont know what Tork's impact to graduation was on FG.

Either way, it isn't particularly the fall of the system that bothers me, rankings will fluctuate even for teams percieved to have good farms based on graduations and trades; it's that all these graduations have led to what will likely end up being a 67 win team. 

I guess ignoring the system ratings, where is the stream of prospects that the improved drafting & developing that was talked about?  Whatever happened to Caesar?  What is in Toledo that is just about major league ready?

That's a lot of mediocrity.  Where is the fruit of the higher draft position?

[buddha]

16 minutes ago, casimir said:

I guess ignoring the system ratings, where is the stream of prospects that the improved drafting & developing that was talked about?  Whatever happened to Caesar?  What is in Toledo that is just about major league ready?

That's a lot of mediocrity.  Where is the fruit of the higher draft position?

that's not mediocrity, that's bad.  mediocraty would be a step up for this team.  the only almost mediocre season was last year.

[RandyMarsh]

19 minutes ago, casimir said:

I guess ignoring the system ratings, where is the stream of prospects that the improved drafting & developing that was talked about?  Whatever happened to Caesar?  What is in Toledo that is just about major league ready?

That's a lot of mediocrity.  Where is the fruit of the higher draft position?

Hey we improved 5 percentage points over 5 years! At that current rate by about 2200 we'll be challenging for the division!

Edited August 3, 2022 by RandyMarsh

[mtutiger]

24 minutes ago, casimir said:

I guess ignoring the system ratings, where is the stream of prospects that the improved drafting & developing that was talked about?  Whatever happened to Caesar?  What is in Toledo that is just about major league ready?

That's a lot of mediocrity.  Where is the fruit of the higher draft position?

You're asking me?

The guy and gals that would know are down at 2100 Woodward Ave. 

Edited August 3, 2022 by mtutiger

[irishpack]

Pacheco at 19 years of age going to high A ball is impressive.  Tigers must think a lot of him.

[bsc3165]

9 minutes ago, irishpack said:

Pacheco at 19 years of age going to high A ball is impressive.  Tigers must think a lot of him.

I am definitely watching Pacheco with great interest! Anyone with more knowledge than me, is FSL still supposed to be pitcher friendly league? Were his offensive numbers highly ranked for league/ player age?.....

[RandyMarsh]

15 minutes ago, bsc3165 said:

I am definitely watching Pacheco with great interest! Anyone with more knowledge than me, is FSL still supposed to be pitcher friendly league? Were his offensive numbers highly ranked for league/ player age?.....

I went and looked and the league average ops for his A ball league this year was a .686 and he was at a .756 while being 2.1 years younger than average. 

Also he is 30th overall in OPS, not sure if they were younger or older but there were 5 other 19 year olds higher than him. 

Edited August 3, 2022 by RandyMarsh

[chasfh]

7 hours ago, Scottwood said:

The Tigers have a bottom 10 farm system now on Fangraphs with Riley Greene graduating from prospect status. 

We've been noting here for years how top-heavy it was.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, mtutiger said:

You're asking me?

The guy and gals that would know are down at 2100 Woodward Ave. 

Would they?

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, irishpack said:

Pacheco at 19 years of age going to high A ball is impressive.  Tigers must think a lot of him.

He's seems very steady - no 4/4s  but very few 0/4. Only 2 games in July without a hit. Doesn't walk much though.

[mtutiger]

4 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Would they?

Good point... either way, they are the ones accountable for this mess.