number20 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Baltimore is going to be a handful for the Lions this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holygoat Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Detroit is gonna be a handful for the Ravens this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 4 hours ago, TP_Fan said: Vikings are absolutely in a must win here. They have the chiefs next week. Down 10-0 early in the 2nd quarter. Lions don’t play the Vikings until weeks 16 and 18. Might be a much different Vikings team than started the season. If they can’t pull it out today they are staring 0-5 in the face with a number of tough games remaining. I’m not sure what direction that team is going. Seems like this is the last year of Cousins. 1-4 won't be much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said: I hate the Philadelphia Push. Turning football into rugby, needs to be outlawed I agree Make it an illegal formation. And make it a dead ball anytime a player is pushed from behind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Did anyone see the movie Justin Herbert made on Max Crosby? Absolutely sick I hate the Cowboys and I hate the Patriots but this was the one time I need the Patriots to win (you know, playoff seeding)...........Belichick hates me. 28-3 Dallas at half time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 NFC rankings after Week 4 according to me: 1. SF 2. Dallas 3. Philly 4. Lions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 3 hours ago, number20 said: Neither are the Bears Lol if the season ended today the bears would pick 1 and 2 in the draft. and still find a way to screw it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number20 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, buddha said: if the season ended today the bears would pick 1 and 2 in the draft. and still find a way to screw it up. It's a long way to the draft... but do you think Fields is done in Chicago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holygoat Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Just saw this on YT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Justin Fields doing his best to make Chicago fans long for the days of Jay Cutler. 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 59 minutes ago, lordstanley said: NFC rankings after Week 4 according to me: 1. SF 2. Dallas 3. Philly 4. Lions I would have Philly ahead of Dallas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Top tier(The Favorites) SF Philly 2nd tier(capable of winning the conference if things break right) Detroit Dallas Seattle 3rd tier(mediocre teams that could make the playoffs due to crappy conference) Rams Falcons Packers Saints Commanders Bucs Giants Vikings Bottom Tier(Formerly known as 'The Lions tier') Cardinals Panthers Bears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, number20 said: It's a long way to the draft... but do you think Fields is done in Chicago? depends on whether they get the #1 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holygoat Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 There will be several good QBs for the Bears to choose from even if they don't get the top pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 i feel like fields could be a decent nfl qb if he was in a better organization. but he went to a team with no offensive line, who hired a defensive head coach, and who had no picks to support him. otoh, the man just has a lot of trouble reading the defense. if he were on the lions playing behind a good oline with a good coordinator calling a lot of play action passes and designed runs, i think he could be ok. but he's on a horrible chicago team and he's just thrown to the wolves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, holygoat said: There will be several good QBs for the Bears to choose from even if they don't get the top pick 36 minutes ago, buddha said: feel like fields could be a decent nfl qb if he was in a better organization. So the bears replace Fields, he signs on/gets traded to a new org and resuscitates his career? Maybe in a big win against....the Bears? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Seriously, Has anyone seen the Justin Herbert play? Sick fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Is it ok to feel just a little bit bad for Zack Wilson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 24 minutes ago, lordstanley said: Is it ok to feel just a little bit bad for Zack Wilson? no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 8 hours ago, lordstanley said: Is it ok to feel just a little bit bad for Zack Wilson? IIRC he hit a guy in the hands in the end zone. Dropped pass and they settle for a FG. There’s a four point swing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 8 hours ago, buddha said: no. Correct answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRamage Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 9/26/2023 at 3:39 PM, gehringer_2 said: Team discipline didn't improve either - always too many penalties. Part of that was still not really having good enough players, but part of it was low detail emphasis coaching. I dunno if it was low detail emphasis, or just Schwartz's game plan. I seem to remember that he said something to the effect of: Penalties are a cost of playing on the edge and I'm willing to accept penalties for that extra level of play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRamage Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 9/27/2023 at 1:16 PM, Motor City Sonics said: I remember the interview Bill Ford Jr. did on WDFN right after the Millen introduction press conference. He used the words, and I kid you not, "Towering Intellect" when speaking of MIllen. If I recall correctly, the general wisdom of the time was that Millen really did know football well. He was a pretty highly praised analyst and I think there were rumors of other teams being interested in adding him to a staff, though not necessarily as a GM. That said, knowing football is a big different than knowing how to GM. Just like I've said before that being a great OC or DC does not mean you'll be a good HC, the same applies here. There are skills involved in being a GM that extend far beyond being a good analyst. At the time I was naively in favor of Millen as a "breathe of fresh air" in a front office that seems far too concerned with the numbers of a "old fashion" football. I couldn't have been more wrong. Millen had no knowledge on how to run a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Maybe if Millen had played the role of Chris Spielman, as a liaison between coaching staff, front office, and ownership, he would have been more successful. He was in over his head managing a scouting staff, contracts, draft board, etc I think identifying that role, and selecting Spielman for it, has been Sheila’s greatest decision as majority owner. Her second greatest decision has been to allow Holmes and Campbell to surround themselves with experienced staff. She really opened up the checkbook to ensure that her first-time GM and HC (don’t bring up MCDC’s interim role) were not overwhelmed by their jobs. Spielman seems to be the guy who makes sure nobody is preening for the owner and who makes sure ownership understands what the team needs. If WCF was smart enough and committed enough, he might have had success putting Millen in a similar role. I don’t hate Millen. He was just overwhelmed by that job that was way too big for any one person. Sheila figured it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 2 hours ago, RedRamage said: If I recall correctly, the general wisdom of the time was that Millen really did know football well. He was a pretty highly praised analyst and I think there were rumors of other teams being interested in adding him to a staff, though not necessarily as a GM. That said, knowing football is a big different than knowing how to GM. Just like I've said before that being a great OC or DC does not mean you'll be a good HC, the same applies here. There are skills involved in being a GM that extend far beyond being a good analyst. At the time I was naively in favor of Millen as a "breathe of fresh air" in a front office that seems far too concerned with the numbers of a "old fashion" football. I couldn't have been more wrong. Millen had no knowledge on how to run a team. Millen was just the tip of the iceberg in that group. There were several long time front office friends of WC who kept giving input beyond MM's role. In my opinion only (looking at it from a distance) the entire front office should have been gutted from Tom Lawand on down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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