Jason_R Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: I'm not sure what all the public complaining about officiating accomplishes, or what the end goal is. Despite all the mistakes, these are humans at the end of the day. Just like a human athlete is going to line up offsides inexplicably, or jump the snap on 4th and 13 inexplicably, sometimes a human official (who is making significantly less than those athletes) will miss a blatant pass interference, or err on the side of not throwing an intentional grounding penalty that should be called. It's all a part of the game. There are arguments to be made that at least some contingent of the officials should be full-time year-round NFL employees... But I have a hard time believing these aren't the best individuals in the world at what they do. Those with a long-term memory still have nightmares from how badly their replacements stunk up the joint ten years ago or so.... It's just a really hard job, and I don't think Patrick Mahomes acting like a toddler on the sideline after a clearly correct call helps make it any easier. I’m not saying I agree with Mahomes or Reid. I’m saying that other franchises make the NFL defend itself on pivotal calls. Detroit just lays there and takes it. Would Detroit continue to be the poster child for egregious missed or manufactured calls if the officials had to go to the podium and answer questions about these calls? Maybe, but maybe not, or maybe not as much. Remember, the NFL let KC get away with (IIRC) eleven illegal formation and false start penalties against Detroit before calling one. I don’t know why they feel entitled to avoiding flags, but I’d like my franchise to try what KC is trying for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 To be fair, the NFL literally created a Calvin Johnson rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jason_R said: I’m not saying I agree with Mahomes or Reid. I’m saying that other franchises make the NFL defend itself on pivotal calls. Detroit just lays there and takes it. Would Detroit continue to be the poster child for egregious missed or manufactured calls if the officials had to go to the podium and answer questions about these calls? Maybe, but maybe not, or maybe not as much. Remember, the NFL let KC get away with (IIRC) eleven illegal formation and false start penalties against Detroit before calling one. I don’t know why they feel entitled to avoiding flags, but I’d like my franchise to try what KC is trying for a change. I think the Lions do too, but I think it's done behind closed doors. I seem to remember the Rams/Seahawks game that cost the Lions a playoff berth had numerous questionable (or worse) calls in it, and that it came out after the fact that Lions brass had privately complained to the NFL about it. If you take yesterday for example though - could Campbell have complained post-game about Fields' intentional grounding that led to a touchdown? Yes. But that's an uncontrollable factor and wasted breath, the officials don't answer to him. His energy is better saved for privately chewing out Hutch for the bone-headed penalty that directly led to the touchdown. That's a controllable factor (or it should be if you're a good coaching staff). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 28 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: To be fair, the NFL literally created a Calvin Johnson rule. My point. There’s some stuff that is so egregious it deserves to get called out, in public. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 The officials have made the NFL into Big Time Wresting. KC got hosed....again. A couple of weeks ago, Mahomes threw a game winning pass to the Green Bay 10 yard line. The receiver was totally interfered with and a ref was within 5 yards, staring right at it. It should have set up an easy game winning FG. Only the ref, for SOME reason, didn't make the easy and right call. He ignored it. How can a game be decided by a referee unless the fix is in? Why do coaches and players have post-game press conferences but the officiating crew is off limits? Why doesn't the NFL fire these guys who ignore obvious calls? And better yet, why aren't obvious calls allowed to be reviewed? The credibility of the NFL is being questioned by many, many people. Games shouldn't be decided by some part time (crooked??) officials. I never believed that games were fixed but I'm seeing more and more questionable calls. Is it because of the multi-million dollar gambling industry? Hmmmm..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, MichiganCardinal said: Warnings are for when your OT is maybe just a little too far off the line. Not when your WR is so far across the line that the wing official is screened from even seeing the ball. That would get called in high school JV, let alone the NFL. No, officials warn wide receivers multiple times every game. We just don't hear about it or see it. Ask any wide receiver and they'll tell you. I mean, how often do you see an offense offside penalty? Almost never... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Tonight we are all Tommy DeVito. 🤌🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 GB getting free first downs from cheating refs. Clearly short of the first down. Should have been a turnover on downs. Instead it’s a first and then a 30 yard play on 1st down. Everything coming up anti lions. Vikings winning last night, packers getting lucky ass calls. And packers score immediately, 6-0. Nightmare of a weekend for the lions. Nightmare. I can’t see how they recover and win the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Giants respond as DeVito and Barkley rush down the field. 7-7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 I've been watching Dolphins/Titans for fantasy implications, and I think I'm literally watching Mike Vrabel losing the will to live for every minute he has to watch Will Levis be his QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 That’s a Love fumble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: I've been watching Dolphins/Titans for fantasy implications, and I think I'm literally watching Mike Vrabel losing the will to live for every minute he has to watch Will Levis be his QB. I needed an average Tyreek game. Thats out. Fun stuff, sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, TP_Fan said: I needed an average Tyreek game. Thats out. Fun stuff, sports. He ran off the field right after it happened, hyping up the crowd. If Tennessee keeps it close, I could see him going back out there in the second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 I will ever understand how these meatheads (coaches) watch nothing but football and still line up in jumbo formations on 4th and 1 and hand it off. It doesn’t work. Why wouldn’t you always, 100 percent of the time spread it out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Man GB is trying hard to lose this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Love with a couple turnovers and missing opening receivers. He can't play outdoors in the cold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jason_R said: Man GB is trying hard to lose this game. "bUt ThE pAcKeRs DoN't Lo$e iN dEcEmBeR!" - ESPN, probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 What is with the NYG special teams tonight? Do they not know they can look at the football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Jason_R said: What is with the NYG special teams tonight? Do they not know they can look at the football? Special teams coach told them it's like looking into a solar eclipse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 I wish Goff had half as much mobility as whoever Tommy DeVito is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Packers struggle against mobile QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Everyone copying the Lions now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Love sacked on 3rd down and packers miss the 45 yard FG. Ya hate to see it. Giants up 21-13 with 10 to go. A FG drive would be nice right about now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Do these wildcat plays ever work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 The Dolphins and Packers both look awful tonight. For being some offensive mastermind, McDaniels red zone play calling has left me stupefied. His team is also completely lacking in discipline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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