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I question the legitimacy of McDaniel's biracial claim as well. I personally have never seen a bi racial person look like him before. My nephew's Mother(brother's wife) is bi racial so that would make my nephew what 25% black?and even at that you can see the black genes in him unlike with McDaniel.

Idk perhaps he really is but either way it shouldn't change the fact that I highly doubt there is any way he has faced any sorta prejudice or racism in his life looking the way he does.

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6 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

I question the legitimacy of McDaniel's biracial claim as well. I personally have never seen a bi racial person look like him before. My nephew's Mother(brother's wife) is bi racial so that would make my nephew what 25% black?and even at that you can see the black genes in him unlike with McDaniel.

Idk perhaps he really is but either way it shouldn't change the fact that I highly doubt there is any way he has faced any sorta prejudice or racism in his life looking the way he does.

I don't know.  True, he's probably never been treated the way most Black people have been treated.     I hope he does well, but calling him a "minority hire" is like getting a college scholarship because you are 1/16th Native American.   Doesn't mean you lived that life.  

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35 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

I question the legitimacy of McDaniel's biracial claim as well. I personally have never seen a bi racial person look like him before. My nephew's Mother(brother's wife) is bi racial so that would make my nephew what 25% black?and even at that you can see the black genes in him unlike with McDaniel.

Idk perhaps he really is but either way it shouldn't change the fact that I highly doubt there is any way he has faced any sorta prejudice or racism in his life looking the way he does.

you might be surprised who is biracial in america....like this guy:

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look at you white people judging who is biracial and who isnt.  calm yourselves!

i have two biracial daughters.  one is dark skinned with brown hair and the other is white as a ghost with red hair.  and yes, they are both mine.  😠

genes work in mysterious ways.

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It all goes back to the NFL trying to make objective an inherently subjective experience. It has to be done somewhere, but it doesn’t actually help the problem.

I recall Elizabeth Warren releasing a DNA test a few years ago that said she had maybe some Cherokee in her dating back 6-10 generations. It backfired on her big time. Because who cares? It’s about experience, and one’s experience is oftentimes dictated by color of your skin, not by ancestry percentages.

I get that to provide objective compensation to teams, you have to have objective standards. But it’s not as easy as X=Y. It’s why I’d prefer a committee approach.

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1 minute ago, buddha said:

look at you white people judging who is biracial and who isnt.  calm yourselves!

i have two biracial daughters.  one is dark skinned with brown hair and the other is white as a ghost with red hair.  and yes, they are both mine.  😠

genes work in mysterious ways.

And have your daughters been treated the same? (outside of your family). jn

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2 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

And have your daughters been treated the same? (outside of your family). jn

yes.  you might be surprised about kids today.  theyre still mean little ass holes, but not a lot of racial stuff.  i also live in la la liberal land so i imagine its different elsewhere.  for example, once a month they have an "eye on equity" meeting with the principal and vice principal (both hispanic) where they talk to parents (all white parents) about race and racism.  as you might imagine, i am often the lone dissenter (but only because my wife refuses to contribute).

my wife is mexican, she gets more racist shit thrown at her by fellow mexicans (youre a coconut, anti-white and anti-american slurs) than anything in america.  she had one incident once in arkansas, but that was it.

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1 hour ago, buddha said:

yes.  you might be surprised about kids today.  theyre still mean little ass holes, but not a lot of racial stuff.  i also live in la la liberal land so i imagine its different elsewhere.  for example, once a month they have an "eye on equity" meeting with the principal and vice principal (both hispanic) where they talk to parents (all white parents) about race and racism.  as you might imagine, i am often the lone dissenter (but only because my wife refuses to contribute).

my wife is mexican, she gets more racist shit thrown at her by fellow mexicans (youre a coconut, anti-white and anti-american slurs) than anything in america.  she had one incident once in arkansas, but that was it.

Glad they are treated the same.   That is surprising.   Not the kids, so much, but the grown ups, who can be extremely ugly.   I am guessing the kids that know your girls have known them for so long that they KNOW them.    I used to work with a record person named Laura Kim, I think she was with Columbia in New York.    She got her start in radio working for 97X (BAM, THE FUTURE OF ROCK & ROLL), which is in Oxford, (Miami University).  She used to tell me about the horrible things that people said to her because she was Chinese and it just floored me.  Since the first 20 times I spoke to her was over the phone I didn't even think about that.    American born.  American mother.  Grew up in Chicago, I think.  Didn't matter, some people would take one look at her and just say terrible things and make terrible assumptions.  Some would speak to her like English was her second language and that was usually not mean, but embarrassing for both parties but others would say intentionally ugly things.     But she was only treated that was because of how she looked, before anyone even attempted a conversation with her.   It's a sickness.  

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On 2/8/2022 at 4:49 PM, buddha said:

yes.  you might be surprised about kids today.  theyre still mean little ass holes, but not a lot of racial stuff.  i also live in la la liberal land so i imagine its different elsewhere.  for example, once a month they have an "eye on equity" meeting with the principal and vice principal (both hispanic) where they talk to parents (all white parents) about race and racism.  as you might imagine, i am often the lone dissenter (but only because my wife refuses to contribute).

my wife is mexican, she gets more racist shit thrown at her by fellow mexicans (youre a coconut, anti-white and anti-american slurs) than anything in america.  she had one incident once in arkansas, but that was it.

Young peope today are usually more comfortable around people of different races than adults.  Most people are not intentionally racist today, but they make assumptions about Blacks and Hispanics which can make their lives difficult.   

 

 

 

 

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On 2/8/2022 at 4:03 PM, MichiganCardinal said:

I recall Elizabeth Warren releasing a DNA test a few years ago that said she had maybe some Cherokee in her dating back 6-10 generations. It backfired on her big time. Because who cares? 

Who cares? Surely you jest. Unfortunately, racial makeup is a huge component in some cases when employment and advancement are being considered. Yes, it is ridiculous. Liz knew this, that’s why she pulled the card. 

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28 minutes ago, 1776 said:

Who cares? Surely you jest. Unfortunately, racial makeup is a huge component in some cases when employment and advancement are being considered. Yes, it is ridiculous. Liz knew this, that’s why she pulled the card. 

Of course I care for who has experiences in the BIPOC community. They are vastly underrepresented and undervalued in today's workforce and we should be working diligently to add those experiences across the workforce - NFL, politics, corporate America, and beyond. I'm saying that I don't care if Warren happens to have somewhere between 0.19% and 1.56% Native American within her, just as I don't care if Mike McDaniel has a similar amount of African in him (though that his father identifies as black says it's likely more).

Without getting too political, Warren released it as a "told you so" to Trump, after having marked that she was Native American on her 1986 Bar Exam, to prove that she was in fact technically Native American. It wasn't some holier-than-thou demonstration of the absurdity of genetic makeup tests.

As I said, when you're awarding objective compensation (draft picks), you have to have something of an objective standard, which in this case has been that McDaniel identifies as biracial, because his father is black. More important than that though is experience, of which I believe McDaniel's (born and raised in suburban Colorado, attended Yale) is categorically different from say Mike Tomlin or Eric Bienemy.

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3 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

Of course I care for who has experiences in the BIPOC community. They are vastly underrepresented and undervalued in today's workforce and we should be working diligently to add those experiences across the workforce - NFL, politics, corporate America, and beyond. I'm saying that I don't care if Warren happens to have somewhere between 0.19% and 1.56% Native American within her, just as I don't care if Mike McDaniel has a similar amount of African in him (though that his father identifies as black says it's likely more).

Without getting too political, Warren released it as a "told you so" to Trump, after having marked that she was Native American on her 1986 Bar Exam, to prove that she was in fact technically Native American. It wasn't some holier-than-thou demonstration of the absurdity of genetic makeup tests.

As I said, when you're awarding objective compensation (draft picks), you have to have something of an objective standard, which in this case has been that McDaniel identifies as biracial, because his father is black. More important than that though is experience, of which I believe McDaniel's (born and raised in suburban Colorado, attended Yale) is categorically different from say Mike Tomlin or Eric Bienemy.

that's the ridiculous part of 'racism' in general. In America, your social race characterization will be based on your skin tone, despite the fact that is too small set of genetic markers to effectively characterize what part of the world a person's ancestors came from, and despite that the whole notion that that should mean anything is absurd.

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