Random NFL comments/thoughts

[buddha]

4 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

The Valenti Show would beg to differ. Don't mention Jalen Carter or Jordan Davis in a ten-mile radius of them if you don't want drool on your shoes.

jalen carter has been very good for the eagles.

[MichiganCardinal]

Just now, Motown Bombers said:

I'll still take Gibbs and Laporta over Carter. I still worry about Carter's effort. 

Same here. LaPorta has looked like he could possibly be the next Kelce or Gronkowski within two years.

There's nothing to say that Carter been a problem in the locker room, or his effort has been poor with the Eagles, so I don't want to unfairly speculate... but he's in a locker room that's rumored to be in turmoil and will have lost 6 of their last 7 to end the season. Gibbs and LaPorta aren't.

[MichiganCardinal]

2 minutes ago, buddha said:

jalen carter has been very good for the eagles.

I agree. He's been better than I expected to be honest. I would still take Gibbs and LaPorta.

[RandyMarsh]

I'm sure there is another example but off the top of my head I'm having a hard time coming up with a bigger collapse than the Eagles have had this year. Started 10-1 and looked the part of the best team in the league and then lose 6 out of their last 7 including many blowout losses.  

[buddha]

3 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

I agree. He's been better than I expected to be honest. I would still take Gibbs and LaPorta.

i think the choice is 2 of gibbs/laporta/campbell/branch.  but not all four.

campbell is the obvious one, but the other three are tough to let go.

[Motown Bombers]

2 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

I'm sure there is another example but off the top of my head I'm having a hard time coming up with a bigger collapse than the Eagles have had this year. Started 10-1 and looked the part of the best team in the league and then lose 6 out of their last 7 including many blowout losses.  

Some of those losses were to bad teams too. 

[RatkoVarda]

i'll give Buck and Aikman credit, they said Philly looked off from the jump

[MichiganCardinal]

6 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

I'm sure there is another example but off the top of my head I'm having a hard time coming up with a bigger collapse than the Eagles have had this year. Started 10-1 and looked the part of the best team in the league and then lose 6 out of their last 7 including many blowout losses.  

The 2021 Cardinals come to mind. They were 10-2 at their height, got kneecapped by the one-win Lions, and have never been the same. They got embarrassed in the playoffs by the Rams in that game where Kyler Murray looked like Grade A dog poopoo. 19/34, 137 yards, 0 TDs, 2 INTs

[Motown Bombers]

The score was 16-9 at half. The Eagles still have not converted a 3rd down. 

[Tenacious D]

Have to admit I was concerned about a Swift revenge game if we played Philly. 

I guess could still happen in a SB matchup with KC, but that’s a very different threat—teenage girls and their soccer moms in matching concert tee’s.

[buddha]

lions open -6.5 on draft kings.  -5.5 in other places.

the bucs are not a good team.

[Motown Bombers]

Looking at who they've beat in their final 6 when they went 5-1, it was Carolina twice and not convincingly, Atlanta in a close game, a reeling Jacksonville team and a win at Green Bay. 

[Jason_R]

Wow. Epic meltdown by the Eagles. You have to think they will clean out the coaching staff. 

[RandyMarsh]

I think the Bucs are solid and are certainly capable of beating the Lions but in terms of what you would normally expect from a Divisional round opponent it really doesn't get a whole lot easier than them. 

 

[Motown Bombers]

Last time the Lions played Tampa, they didn't have Gibbs, Montgomery or Jackson. 

[Motown Bombers]

I'm enjoying Dallas and Philadelphia flopping in the 1st round of the playoffs. 

[RandyMarsh]

Kinda interesting looking at the 4 QBs left in the NFC. You of course have Goff who was basically cast aside and kicked to the curb by his former team, same with Mayfield, then you have Love who very well may still be riding the bench if Rodgers didn't decide he wanted to leave and then you have the literal last pick in the NFL draft.  

[Motor City Sonics]

pretty epic collapse by Philly.     Is the coach out?  

 

This is a different Tampa team than earlier this season, but I don't think they're prepared for the Ford Field atmosphere. 

 

The fact that Baker Mayfield is not that mobile bodes well, but the dude is tough as hell.   

 

[Motown Bombers]

Tampa was 3-1 when the Lions played them and the Lions were without Montgomery, Gibbs and Jackson. After the Detroit game, they struggled for a while before beating some mediocre teams at the end. 

[RandyMarsh]

Siriani did just take them to a Super Bowl so even though the collapse is of epic proportions I would think long and hard about pulling the trigger. I mean hypothetically what if the same thing were to happen to us next year would that mean that Campbell should be gone? 

[MichiganCardinal]

14 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I'm enjoying Dallas and Philadelphia flopping in the 1st round of the playoffs. 

NFC East is the first division in the NFL eliminated from contention. NFC North has the most teams remaining. Packers were the only wildcard team to beat their division champ pairing.

[Motown Bombers]

3 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

Siriani did just take them to a Super Bowl so even though the collapse is of epic proportions I would think long and hard about pulling the trigger. I mean hypothetically what if the same thing were to happen to us next year would that mean that Campbell should be gone? 

I think the issue is that he lost the locker room. There are a lot of reports by the Philadelphia media of issues in the locker room. 

[RandyMarsh]

Things can always change quickly in the NFL but I wouldn't be surprised if the NFC North is the best division in football in the next couple years. 

[Motown Bombers]

Except for Minnesota, all the teams in the north are young. 

[MichiganCardinal]

2 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

Siriani did just take them to a Super Bowl so even though the collapse is of epic proportions I would think long and hard about pulling the trigger. I mean hypothetically what if the same thing were to happen to us next year would that mean that Campbell should be gone? 

It all depends. Knowing Campbell, almost certainly not. Not knowing how this happened with the Eagles though, it's harder to say.

Here, there are a lot of rumblings about how this went down, but it's not publicly known. If it was in fact the case that Sirianni lost control of the locker room, which subsequently led to problems on the field? Then it needs to be determined whether it is fixable. If it's not, and you run it back with him anyway? 2024-2025 is going to be a lost year where they go 5-12 and fire him around week 10, despite a roster that is built to win now.

The internal postmortem will be what determines his fate.