The F1 Thread

[Hongbit]

1 hour ago, Deleterious said:

So dangerous. Especially in low visibility.  

 

Eerie reminders of Jules Bianchi.  Can’t believe that happened and especially at Suzuka again.  

[Deleterious]

Horner once again made a comment that he is confident RB did not go over the cap.  They are supposed to announce the audit results today around noon, assuming my time conversion is correct.

[Deleterious]

If you click the link you can translate it.  

It basically says Red Bull did go over the cap limit.  It does not say by how much and just says a minor breach.  Aston Martin made some sort of mistake and both teams will be penalized somehow.  

 

[Hongbit]

1 hour ago, Deleterious said:

If you click the link you can translate it.  

It basically says Red Bull did go over the cap limit.  It does not say by how much and just says a minor breach.  Aston Martin made some sort of mistake and both teams will be penalized somehow.  

 

According to their rules, a minor breach is less than 5% of budget.   Thus could be as much as $7.5m although I’d be surprised if it was that much.  Rumors have it being as small as $1-2M, which could still cover one or even two small upgrades last season.    No matter what it is they need to do a better job with transparency. 

[Deleterious]

Is the FIA going to fine Red Bull for going over the cap?  That would be asinine and basically do nothing to deter teams from spending.  Ferrari, Merc, and RB would just continue spending whatever they want and pay the fines.

This off season they need to sit down and come up with better punishments.  There needs to be some sort of penalty on future development.  Or an extreme situation where there are possibly points penalties.  

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This is such an easy fix. Just bang RB for some points, some from each driver.  Not enough to make Max lose the WDC or the team lose the constructors. But enough to make a statement.

I guess the problem is it might drop Perez a spot in the WDC.

[Screwball]

Off topic, but wild stuff in NASCAR today.

Those dirt guys.

[Deleterious]

11 hours ago, Screwball said:

Off topic, but wild stuff in NASCAR today.

Those dirt guys.

It isn't a good NASCAR race without some pushing and shoving afterwards.  

[Deleterious]

Is that papaya?  Maybe he is a McLaren fan.

 

[Deleterious]

Seeing reports that Latifi will drive for Chip Ganassi in Indy Car next season.

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Very cool.

 

[Hongbit]

Not familiar with Moneygram but I’m probably not the only person to wonder if they were a legitimate company or not based on Gene’s prior sponsor relations. 

[Deleterious]

Red Bull's F1 cost cap breach was in four main areas

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Red Bull were initially well within the cost cap figure of $145 million by about $4 million before multiple factors combined to push them $1.8 million over, according to RacingNews365.com's sources.

These included

Internal costs related to gardening leave and sick pay - $800k

Catering costs - $1.2 million

The other areas that pushed the team over the cap included the use of spare parts and a tax situation with UK authorities which meant the team went from $4 million under to $1.8 million over - a swing of about $5.8 million it is understood.

 

[Deleterious]

Gene Hass says Mick is an ok driver but expensive because of the crashes. Gives Giovanazzi a practice session. Gio puts it into the wall 7 minutes into the session.

[Hongbit]

An American back on the grid. 

[Hongbit]

Got a feeling this may be Lewis day.   

[Hongbit]

Quite a battle.   Don’t see how Lewis will be able to hold off Max.

[Deleterious]

Best Driver + Best Car = Dominance 

[Hongbit]

Best Driver This Season + One Of The Best Cars Ever = Never Seen Before Dominance

This RB is the best car by a mile.  Reminds me of the Merc from 2 years ago with an even a bigger margin between the pack

[Deleterious]

Tim Apple is taking a pounding for his less than enthusiastic flag waving.

 

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Good idea on how F1 is growing in the US.

440,000 attended the race in Texas this weekend (The entire weekend).  In 2018 they had 200,000.

 

[Deleterious]

Curious to see how this shakes out.  If it is just a light slap then Merc and Ferrari are going to turn on the money spigots.

 

[Hongbit]

19 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Curious to see how this shakes out.  If it is just a light slap then Merc and Ferrari are going to turn on the money spigots.

 

If this is going to be just a fine then every  team would be stupid not to go over the development cap by a few million and have their CFO launder it in the catering and gardening budgets. 

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Ferrari has gotten worse as the year has gone on.