Biff Mayhem Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Staged. Declining ratings needed some buzz. If he was really mad, he'd have closed-fisted him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Perhaps, although I don't know what stake Chris Rock and Will Smith would have in the Oscars business that they would agree to pull a stunt of this nature just to goose TV ratings for next year. On another note, if you're in the game and you think someone is a weak bitch, you slap him, not closed-fist punch him. You punch only people you have a healthy respect for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, chasfh said: Perhaps, although I don't know what stake Chris Rock and Will Smith would have in the Oscars business that they would agree to pull a stunt of this nature just to goose TV ratings for next year. On another note, if you're in the game and you think someone is a weak bitch, you slap him, not closed-fist punch him. You punch only people you have a healthy respect for. My favorite part was that supposedly Denzel told Smith afterward "It's when you're on top, the Devil comes for you" LOL - Denzel should be somebody's grandmother. Edited March 28, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 The assault talk is a bit dramatic. It was a harsh joke but you don't go up on stage and do that either. He overshadowed the whole night which was wonderful in so many ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Totally staged, Rock was ready for it. Your first instict would be to atleast prepare yourself to be hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Well, the LAPD thought it was real or else they wouldn't have asked Chris Rock if he were pressing charges, the academy condemned it and are looking into it, and oh yeah, Will Smith just issued an apology to Chris Rock and admitted he overreacted. Totally not staged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 59 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Well, the LAPD thought it was real or else they wouldn't have asked Chris Rock if he were pressing charges, the academy condemned it and are looking into it, and oh yeah, Will Smith just issued an apology to Chris Rock and admitted he overreacted. Totally not staged. would have loved a blood sample on Smith. If you watch the clip he was having a good time laughing 10 seconds before he went ape. Mood instability/impulse control etc. Reasonable markers for some kind of impairment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 14 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: would have loved a blood sample on Smith. If you watch the clip he was having a good time laughing 10 seconds before he went ape. Mood instability/impulse control etc. Reasonable markers for some kind of impairment... He talked to Jada who wasn't quite so happy. That was the mood swing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 this was good: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Mayhem Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 11 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: Well, the LAPD thought it was real or else they wouldn't have asked Chris Rock if he were pressing charges, the academy condemned it and are looking into it, and oh yeah, Will Smith just issued an apology to Chris Rock and admitted he overreacted. Totally not staged. I’m sorry, no. This is the first time in years that more than a handful of people discussed an awards show. Even Jussie is scoffing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Biff Mayhem said: I’m sorry, no. This is the first time in years that more than a handful of people discussed an awards show. Even Jussie is scoffing. It's all a big conspiracy. The LAPD, Academy, Chris Rock, Jada Pinkett and Will Smith are all in on it. Other actors like Denzel and Tyler Perry were in on it. Will Smith's PR people were in on it. Will Smith is lying and ruining the good guy image he spent decades cultivating just so people talk about the awards show. Even if this was all a rouse, of all the things they could have staged, why would they have staged a top star assaulting someone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) Why isn’t Kareen Abdul-Jabbar considered a national treasure? He’s one of the best opinion writers practically no one is reading, and this is the smartest take on the whole incident I have seen. ”When Will Smith stormed onto the Oscar stage to strike Chris Rock for making a joke about his wife’s short hair, he did a lot more damage than just to Rock’s face. With a single petulant blow, he advocated violence, diminished women, insulted the entertainment industry, and perpetuated stereotypes about the Black community.” Edited March 29, 2022 by chasfh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 32 minutes ago, chasfh said: Why isn’t Kareen Abdul-Jabbar considered a national treasure? He’s one of the best opinion writers practically no one is reading, and this is the smartest take on the whole incident I have seen. ”When Will Smith stormed onto the Oscar stage to strike Chris Rock for making a joke about his wife’s short hair, he did a lot more damage than just to Rock’s face. With a single petulant blow, he advocated violence, diminished women, insulted the entertainment industry, and perpetuated stereotypes about the Black community.” >national treasure? yeah - I don't always agree with Kareem but he is an honest an perceptive thinker. if he had a piece of sheepskin from an Ivy instead of NBA championship rings maybe we'd be able to listen to him instead half of the gas bags like Sharpton the media normally goes to for racial commentary. Of course I have no idea if Kareem cares about having a higher commentary profile. He definitely has always marched to his own drum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: >national treasure? yeah - I don't always agree with Kareem but he is an honest an perceptive thinker. if he had a piece of sheepskin from an Ivy instead of NBA championship rings maybe we'd be able to listen to him instead half of the gas bags like Sharpton the media normally goes to for racial commentary. Of course I have no idea if Kareem cares about having a higher commentary profile. He definitely has always marched to his own drum. Yes, national treasure. Kareem has consistently proven to be one of the most thoughtful observers of our national social condition we have in America. Feel free to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Kareem never worked hard enough on defense, lots of times didn’t even run down the court, and never really tried except in the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades of Deivi Cruz Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, Hongbit said: Kareem never worked hard enough on defense, lots of times didn’t even run down the court, and never really tried except in the playoffs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Shades of Deivi Cruz said: IIRC, Lanier was pretty strong against Kareem. I always wonder what Big Bob could have accomplished on a good team. Edited March 29, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 On 3/28/2022 at 12:28 PM, Tigeraholic1 said: Totally staged, Rock was ready for it. Your first instict would be to atleast prepare yourself to be hit. He wasn't ready for it because he didn't think it was serious. Will got caught laughing at the joke and imagined what life was going to be like for the next 10 years if he didn't do something. No way Chris Rock knew she had a condition. He wouldn't have said that. He thought she was going for a look and she looks fine, by the way. I worked at the hospital with a black woman who was voluntarily bald. She did it as a gesture for a friend going through chemo years ago and she liked it and said the amount of time it saved her was worth any comments she got. (people assumed she had cancer). She'd wear wigs once in awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades of Deivi Cruz Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 I've seen it said a lot that Will changed his reaction based on Jada. To me it seems just as possible that his initial reaction was to laugh, because that's what they are supposed to do, but then he realized what was actually said (probably combined with the look on his wife's face). I can think of many times when I've initially laughed at something and then paused and was like "WTF?". It doesn't really change anything either way, but just a thought. It was still a MASSIVE overreaction on Will's part regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 This is one of those situations where I can fully understand each side of the argument. While going up and slapping someone like that is technically wrong I can't get worked up about it when he's defending his wife from an insult, even if it was from a comedian and under the guise of a joke. Sort of like a parent with a kid who got suspended from school for fighting but he was being bullied or whatever. Part of you is proud the kid defended himself. At least that how I would have been under the same situation. I can also see the argument that it's hollywood and the hosts and presenters make fun of hollywood people. It's part of the deal. The only difference I see here is her medical condition being the exception to the rule. Nobody got hurt and Smith doing what he did overshadowed his big win. I see it as self inflicted harm and it evens out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 If Amy Schumer made that joke and Will Smith reacted the same way, he would have been arrested before he made it off the stage. Why is it different and justifiable because it's Chris Rock? Can't Jada defend herself? We can hit people now who make jokes that offend us? Uncle Phil could've popped him on many occasions for all his fat jokes. If Will Smith really wanted to make a statement, he could have walked out, heckled or yelled at Chris Rock, or shame him during his acceptance speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 I don’t buy that Chris Rock didn't know about Jada Pickett Smith’s condition. It was big entertainment news just a couple months ago, and even if it weren’t so big, Hollywood is a really small community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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