1776 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 28 minutes ago, ewsieg said: https://news.yahoo.com/theyre-clearing-homeless-people-san-202319014.html In playing the perfect host, San Fran is adapting to their slightly more right leaning guests and cleaning up the city a bit. “The president will also raise areas of cooperation — including climate change and countering narcotics trafficking — as well as Beijing’s role in the Israel-Hamas conflict and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.” Total. Waste. Of. Time. SF was a beautiful city and it sucks it’s become what it is. We’ve said several times we’d love to go back but not a chance these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 8 hours ago, 1776 said: Total. Waste. Of. Time. It may be, but China is showing a willingness to talk. If someone is willing to talk to you, I think the default should always be to listen. Worst case, waste of time. Lots of best case possibilities though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, ewsieg said: It may be, but China is showing a willingness to talk. If someone is willing to talk to you, I think the default should always be to listen. Worst case, waste of time. Lots of best case possibilities though. As much as China has been a total pain in the ass the past 20 years or so... This is the take I have to agree with. China still wants to push the US aside and dominate the world. That's not going to happen, and I think they know that now. So we still need to talk them into being a responsible world partner instead of a belligerent world chaos agent. They may not change... but we've still got to try to convince them to and there's no way to do that aside from sitting down with them and talking it out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 https://apple.news/AhaJysfRCSsKbw8RO5QPtQQ RIP Rosalyn Carter. She &Jimmy let their actions speak louder than their words. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaceyLou Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 40 minutes ago, smr-nj said: https://apple.news/AhaJysfRCSsKbw8RO5QPtQQ RIP Rosalyn Carter. She &Jimmy let their actions speak louder than their words. I'm sad to hear she's gone. She was my favorite First Lady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 On 11/13/2023 at 7:40 AM, ewsieg said: It may be, but China is showing a willingness to talk. If someone is willing to talk to you, I think the default should always be to listen. Worst case, waste of time. Lots of best case possibilities though. That's pretty much what Stan said about Trump talking to Kim. 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 34 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: That's pretty much what Stan said about Trump talking to Kim. 😃 I didn't have a problem with Trump talking to Kim. I was less enthusiastic about him kissing his ass. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said: I didn't have a problem with Trump talking to Kim. I was less enthusiastic about him kissing his ass. He's still kissing his ass. He said he was smart because he shows his country who the boss is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: He's still kissing his ass. He said he was smart because he shows his country who the boss is. Through executions and self-induced famine wiping out percentages of the population every few years... What a jackass. (Applies to both, although Kim is obviously the more deadly of the two and the other asshat is mostly hot air.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 2 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: Through executions and self-induced famine wiping out percentages of the population every few years... What a jackass. (Applies to both, although Kim is obviously the more deadly of the two and the other asshat is mostly hot air.) I've also read about the prison camps where his opponents and their families are starved and tortured. I don't know if that's still going on but it sounded absolutely brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 13 hours ago, Tiger337 said: That's pretty much what Stan said about Trump talking to Kim. 😃 To be fair, I didn't object to that either although I understood the argument against it. There was a lot of behind the scenes work for China/US to even determine if meeting was worth it. That's your traditional foreign policy standard process. Trump's was more on the fly. IIRC, we got an agreement out of Kim to remove nuclear weapons from all of Korea, although I have no idea if there was any 'bite' to that agreement or just something both could sign for popularity points. I do remember soldier remains were shipped back to the US, so there was still value in that meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Just now, ewsieg said: To be fair, I didn't object to that either although I understood the argument against it. There was a lot of behind the scenes work for China/US to even determine if meeting was worth it. That's your traditional foreign policy standard process. Trump's was more on the fly. IIRC, we got an agreement out of Kim to remove nuclear weapons from all of Korea, although I have no idea if there was any 'bite' to that agreement or just something both could sign for popularity points. I do remember soldier remains were shipped back to the US, so there was still value in that meeting. I also didn't think there was anything wrong with it in theory. It's just that everything Trump does is on the fly and I don't trust any Trump agreement to be anything more than something that benefits himself personally in terms of money or popularity. I also assume that anything good that comes out of anything involving him was because of something that someone else did. I think the main result of the meeting was Kim coming out of it feeling more relevant on the world stage which is not a good thing. But maybe pfife can tell us what they got out of the summit! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, ewsieg said: ... Trump's was more on the fly. IIRC, we got an agreement out of Kim to remove nuclear weapons from all of Korea, although I have no idea if there was any 'bite' to that agreement or just something both could sign for popularity points. I do remember soldier remains were shipped back to the US, so there was still value in that meeting. It's always worth it to try. But removing nukes from Korea...? North Korea will NEVER agree to that... EVER. So you would need to provide some documentary evidence on that bolded part... otherwise, hogwash. But... even though Trump is an imbecile, if he had some remains of soldiers sent back to the US (I vaguely remember that also...); it's a positive. I don't want to declare Trump 100% bad, cause no one is 100% anything, good or bad... But getting back remains would go on the positive side of the ledger, one of a few that he managed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 NK would be happy to do it, assuming they were paid enough to do so. Of course they would just start building them again. I just looked it up, looks like part of it was reaffirming an agreement to denuclearize the peninsula that Kim made with South Korea in 2018. For reference: nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/full-text-u-s-north-korea-agreement-signed-trump-kim-n882246 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 21 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: Through executions and self-induced famine wiping out percentages of the population every few years... What a jackass. (Applies to both, although Kim is obviously the more deadly of the two and the other asshat is mostly hot air.) "Jackass" and "asshat" seem to me such wildly insufficient epithets to use in reference to a genocidal dictator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Far be it from me to say it serves him right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Holy Moses… Lol. It’s very much looking like more than a few Republicans are going to give George Santos a “stay in Congress card”. …With the speaker himself expressing worries of “Precedent”. Oh, please…. Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 They need his vote for 15 more months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 36 minutes ago, oblong said: They need his vote for 15 more months. The ONLY thing that matters for Partisan Hackery... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Plus he knows where the bodies are buried. It's GOP blackmail capitulation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted December 6, 2023 Author Share Posted December 6, 2023 This story is based on some appalling situations where parents were able to abuse their kids because they were protected by the lack of oversight of homeschooled kids. I have colleagues who did the homeschooling thing because they lived in places with terrible schools (e.g., Texas, Florida). Many other potential reasons why people don't want their kids being socialized within the community but...if it also enables this great evil...yeah, lets get some oversight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 it's also easier to brainwash them. That's not usually the intent by the parents because they themselves have been brainwashed. Check out the Duggar thing on Amazon Prime. Lots of people from my HS have homeschooled their kids after they spread out in the country. The "evil" public schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 McCarthy throwing in the towel at the end of this year. Not even finishing his term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Coward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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