Motown Bombers Posted March 25 Posted March 25 3 minutes ago, chasfh said: Back in your bad old day, a high school dropout could walk in the front door at Ford's or Chrysler's and get a job that would support an entire family. 😉 My father showed up to the Ford plant in Shelby Township in 1973 hungover and got a job and retired in 2003. He's been collecting a pension almost as long as he was an active employee. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted March 25 Posted March 25 (edited) 13 minutes ago, chasfh said: Back in your bad old day, a high school dropout could walk in the front door at Ford's or Chrysler's and get a job that would support an entire family. 😉 there is a definite tension over this kind of issue on a larger scale which I think drives a lot of middle/lower class frustration that has led to Trump. Society has both an obligation to the individual's rights, but also to social order, and I think there is strong undercurrent of feeling that we too easily sacrifice the social order rights of the many for the sake of the liberty of the few, who too often don't benefit anyway. That we have lost the 'ordered' part of the 'ordered liberty' concept of the founders. I don't necessarily want to litigate the truth of falsity of that sensibility, but just to recognize that it's something with a pervasive presence out there. It's the lower classes that have to deal with the social dysfunction while the upper classes can go live in their gated communities and send their kids to private or gilded suburban schools, ergo unpopularlity/resentment about politics considered liberal/progressive 'preaching.' Edited March 25 by gehringer_2 Quote
oblong Posted March 25 Posted March 25 1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said: My father showed up to the Ford plant in Shelby Township in 1973 hungover and got a job and retired in 2003. He's been collecting a pension almost as long as he was an active employee. A friends dad wasn’t even a US citizen. He was born in Canada, never became a citizen, joined the army, got out and slipped through the cracks somehow. The UAW guy either did some paperwork shuffling or nobody cared. Worked 45 years and is still going strong in his 90s. Quote
chasfh Posted March 25 Posted March 25 1 hour ago, oblong said: A friends dad wasn’t even a US citizen. He was born in Canada, never became a citizen, joined the army, got out and slipped through the cracks somehow. The UAW guy either did some paperwork shuffling or nobody cared. Worked 45 years and is still going strong in his 90s. Careful, now ... you don't want to out the guy and get his busted and deported ... 😉 Quote
LaceyLou Posted March 25 Posted March 25 25 minutes ago, chasfh said: Careful, now ... you don't want to out the guy and get his busted and deported ... 😉 I know a couple of people who are going through that now. Both have been in the country for decades. 2 Quote
Tigermojo Posted March 26 Posted March 26 45 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: After immigrants, who's the next target? It won't be billionaires. Quote
Tiger337 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 19 hours ago, LaceyLou said: I know a couple of people who are going through that now. Both have been in the country for decades. I have got a whole bunch of international students who may be going through somethig similar soon if they can't get jobs quickly after graduation. They have only been here a short time, but these are hard working, motivated students who could definitely help employers. Many of them are from war torn countries, some are on asylum, so I have a lot of very anxious students this semester. 2 Quote
Tiger337 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Tigermojo said: After immigrants, who's the next target? It won't be billionaires. People with disabilities? Elderly people? They are not useful to billionaires. Edited March 26 by Tiger337 Quote
oblong Posted March 26 Posted March 26 on the fringes of the conservative movement are people who think euthanasia will be an acceptable outcome for those who take too much from socieyt. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted March 26 Posted March 26 3 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: People with disabilities? Elderly people? They are not useful to billionaires. To be fair, they publicly offered up the elderly for sacrifice during COVID. Quote
Tiger337 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said: To be fair, they publicly offered up the elderly for sacrifice during COVID. yes, they did. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 6 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: To be fair, they publicly offered up the elderly for sacrifice during COVID. Got a point there. Quote
smr-nj Posted March 26 Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said: To be fair, they publicly offered up the elderly for sacrifice during COVID. Did they ever…. Quote
chasfh Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Before they get to the rest of us, they have to dispose of the independent media, academia, community leaders, and opposition politicians—you know, troublemakers. Quote
Tigerbomb13 Posted March 28 Posted March 28 1 hour ago, chasfh said: Take THAT, stupid sexy libtards! Fancy libtards with their fancy teeth Quote
smr-nj Posted March 28 Posted March 28 16 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said: Fancy libtards with their fancy teeth Ok, that just made me snort-laugh. 😂 Post of the day. 🏆 1 Quote
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