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[Motown Bombers]

11 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

I have a friend who is overweight. She knows it. I am pretty open about my prediabetes (recently upgraded to mild type 2) and was at her house for a cookout a couple years ago, but because it was burgers and Mac and cheese I said I would come out but eat at home. She said something about how she was trying to lose weight and was using organic ground beef for the burgers thinking that would help.

Somebody else has pushed gluten free food on me (gluten free actually is usually bad for diabetics because whole wheat is replaced by simple carbohydrates).

I just don't think people have a fundamental understanding of nutrition and buy into the buzzwords out there.

Anyways, I like to cook and like to exercise, so there are worse afflictions to have...

When I was in high school, the Atkins low carb diet was all the rage. I worked at Burger King, and they got in on it by creating the low carb Whopper. It was just a Whopper without a bun. You put the patty and the topping in a bowl and that was it. It actually sold fairly well. 

[oblong]

There is absolutely no regulation or standard regarding using the word "organic".

It's a meaningless word.

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

is that you said losing weight was hard and that people who don't lose weight just don't want it enough.

wrong guy.

I believe I've been trying to put across that you can't generalize because everyone's biology is unique. What may be easy for one may not be for another and vice versa. You are always going to find people at both ends of all these spectrums that  are bad examples of what is or isn't "true".

Edited Monday at 06:28 PM by gehringer_2

[Hongbit]

You guys have heard about Ozempic, right?   It’s never been easier for people to lose weight.   It absolutely works.   50 to 100 to 209 pounds depending on the individual is possible and wiithin a year’s time. 

One massive, giant, enormous caveat, everyone who takes it is essentially participating in a clinical trial as the longterm effects are unknown.    It’s also tremendously expensive at the moment for people without Diabetes.    

[Motown Bombers]

Ozempic isn't even the one commonly being prescribed for weight loss. There are, however, GLP-1's that are FDA approved and clinical trials have been done. Long term affects are known since these drugs have been used to treat diabetes. People who take a GLP-1 aren't looking for an easy way out. 

Edited Monday at 06:30 PM by Motown Bombers

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, Hongbit said:

You guys have heard about Ozempic, right?   It’s never been easier for people to lose weight.   It absolutely works.   50 to 100 to 209 pounds depending on the individual is possible and wiithin a year’s time. 

One massive, giant, enormous caveat, everyone who takes it is essentially participating in a clinical trial as the longterm effects are unknown.    It’s also tremendously expensive at the moment for people without Diabetes.    

Isn't Ozempic's USP all about suppressing appetite? So even using that is consistent with the calorie deficit strategy.

[Motown Bombers]

26 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Isn't Ozempic's USP all about suppressing appetite? So even using that is consistent with the calorie deficit strategy.

That's exactly what it does. It reduces your addiction to food. It's basically a nicotine patch for food. Imagine if there was a drug that could reduce alcohol dependency. Calorie deficit "strategy" is how you lose weight but not how you maintain weight. You don't run a calorie deficit the rest of your life. These drugs have shown that not only can they treat people to lose weight but also maintain a lower weight. They aren't just easily available to anyone who wants them. In order to get them, you must have a certain BMI and at least one co-morbidity related to weight.

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

Ozempic isn't even the one commonly being prescribed for weight loss. There are, however, GLP-1's that are FDA approved and clinical trials have been done. Long term affects are known since these drugs have been used to treat diabetes. People who take a GLP-1 aren't looking for an easy way out. 

If you getting toward 60 and are overweight, your odds of being TypeII or  pre-TypeII or borderline TypeII start getting pretty high -- the distinction between needing to lose weight and being type II almost disappears as a practical matter.

[chasfh]

10 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

That's exactly what it does. It reduces your addiction to food. It's basically a nicotine patch for food. Imagine if there was a drug that could reduce alcohol dependency. Calorie deficit "strategy" is how you lose weight but not how you maintain weight. You don't run a calorie deficit the rest of your life. These drugs have shown that not only can they treat people to lose weight but also maintain a lower weight. They aren't just easily available to anyone who wants them. In order to get them, you must have a certain BMI and at least one co-morbidity related to weight.

Right, you can't do calorie deficit forever. At some point you get to where you want to be and then shoot for calorie equilibrium. I suppose another way is to do calorie deficit during the week, then allow yourself cheat days during the weekend. But bodies generally like it better if you're consistent all week.

A big problem people have is when they try to lose too much weight too quickly, like, say, 30 pounds in eight weeks. That's insane, and it's really hard to get there by calorie reduction alone because you'd have to cut your daily calorie intake by something like 2,000 calories a day to achieve that, and 2,000 calories is closing in to the recommended daily total calorie intake for grown men. The other part is people who lose too much weight too fast tend to boomerang and gain it all back just as quickly due to psychological reasons. 

The most reliable way to lose weight and keep it off is to shoot for losing one pound per week. Wanna lose 25 pounds? Budget six months for that. That would require reducing calorie by 500 per day from whatever your recommended limit is, so, probably eating 1,800 or 2,000 calories in a day. It's not super easy because you'll probably have to give up snacking, but it's doable, and you don't end starving yourself in the process. Slow and steady wins that race every time.

[Tigerbomb13]

Folmer was found guilty of possessing child pornography in 2020. 

[ewsieg]

9 hours ago, oblong said:

There is absolutely no regulation or standard regarding using the word "organic".

It's a meaningless word.

It's certainly not meaningless .... it means about 30-45% higher.

[oblong]

1 minute ago, ewsieg said:

It's certainly not meaningless .... it means about 30-45% higher.

And… dumber.  

[Deleterious]

10 hours ago, oblong said:

There is absolutely no regulation or standard regarding using the word "organic".

It's a meaningless word.

Sure there are.

https://www.ams.usda.gov/rules-regulations/organic/labeling

[oblong]

Ok, it's "regulated" but still meaningless, as is non GMO.