Jim Cowan Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 hours ago, mtutiger said: George doesn't want for anything at all, but he's gotta point here.... politics tends to attract the absolute worst people these days. Definitely. Why would you do that to your family? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 This guy is running for the House of Delegates. You think if we told him if we take boats out of the water there would be no more Trump Boat Parades…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 59 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: This guy is running for the House of Delegates. You think if we told him if we take boats out of the water there would be no more Trump Boat Parades…. That would be funnier if it wasn’t so freaking tragic. We now have a segment of the population that is willfully, and proudly, ignorant… and applaud/idolize non-scientific minds. We are so screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Superman, Jon Kent, being bisexual, is the type of trolling I enjoy. I love seeing mid 50's white men get their shit stained tighty whitey's in a bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Raiders Coach Resigns After Homophobic and Misogynistic Emails The defenses of Jon Gruden don't make a ton of sense in this particular case.... if I used my work email like he apparently used his, I'd be fired. Why should he get preferential treatment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 I would be fired too and most people would today. To me the bigger problem are the people looking to be offended. People like this lost their minds when they went toy shopping in California and found boy and girl toy sections. Now they have a law all toys are mixed together so the parents couldn't be offended. I wonder if these people have the same problem when they go to the adult store looking for sex toys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Archie said: I would be fired too and most people would today. To me the bigger problem are the people looking to be offended. This cuts both ways, though.... to an extent, the people flying off the handle defending Gruden here are also looking to be offended and complain about cancel culture. Regardless of the fact that, as I stated above, if any of us used our work email in such fashion, we would be fired. Cancel culture does exist to an extent, and there are excesses. You won't get an argument out of me there. But, to some, it appears that the existence of "cancel culture" now apparently means that nobody can be fired for anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 "cancel culture" is also known as "culture" Wondering when Spider2YBanana w/ Jon Gruden debut's on Fox News Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 41 minutes ago, mtutiger said: But, to some, it appears that the existence of "cancel culture" now apparently means that nobody can be fired for anything. more special rights for conservatives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 I would love to see Quinn and Patricia's emails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Unless it’s a statue they can remove and make political hay… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 A crucifix? Isn’t that a Catholic thing? Oh, the evangelicals won’t like that … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 5 hours ago, pfife said: I've read his stuff for a long time - you never know if the person you read is the real person or not, it's easy to assume a persona in writing, but that said, he seems like a straight up guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 he's awesome. have no idea how well he'll govern, but he's awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I can't vouch for this source. Interesting read. Chances are you either follow this dude or have seen him on twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Anyone who can be that easily swayed from one extreme all the way to the other has either zero integrity of convictions, or have no real convictions at all. They haven't thought anything through, so they can be swayed way back to the other side just as easily. Basically, they're in it whatever the thrill of it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 33 minutes ago, chasfh said: Anyone who can be that easily swayed from one extreme all the way to the other has either zero integrity of convictions, or have no real convictions at all. They haven't thought anything through, so they can be swayed way back to the other side just as easily. Basically, they're in it whatever the thrill of it is. Perhaps, but you have also noticed that some of the most uncompromising non-smokers are the guys who used to smoke 2 packs a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 29 minutes ago, chasfh said: Anyone who can be that easily swayed from one extreme all the way to the other has either zero integrity of convictions, or have no real convictions at all. They haven't thought anything through, so they can be swayed way back to the other side just as easily. Basically, they're in it whatever the thrill of it is. Well, to be fair maybe they hadn't thought it through the 1st time and began to think it through subsequently and ended up where there are. I think one thing that is true is that when you are young, you have to choose something to believe about what motivates people and a lot of your ideas will follow from that, and you may change what you think about that any number of times. I think as you get older you form you own 1st person data about what motivates people and at that point if what you had accepted from other people eventually doesn't square with the sum of your own experience a big shift may come in your views also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 There’s no zealot like a convert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: Well, to be fair maybe they hadn't thought it through the 1st time and began to think it through subsequently and ended up where there are. I think one thing that is true is that when you are young, you have to choose something to believe about what motivates people and a lot of your ideas will follow from that, and you may change what you think about that any number of times. I think as you get older you form you own 1st person data about what motivates people and at that point if what you had accepted from other people eventually doesn't square with the sum of your own experience a big shift may come in your views also. Sure, that first part is possible in general. But it would take a lot for a long time for me to come around to trusting a person who, as oblong says, is a zealot in one direction and immediately becomes a zealot in the polar opposite direction. Of course, if you take this particular thread at face value, this guy is a lying sociopath who manipulated his way to Twitter fame using tactics similar to that of TFG, and who deactivated his feed when he got in trouble. So the answer in his case is "no real convictions". This strengthens my anecdotally-based impression that this kind of sudden 180 smells funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, chasfh said: Sure, that first part is possible in general. But it would take a lot for a long time for me to come around to trusting a person who, as oblong says, is a zealot in one direction and immediately becomes a zealot in the polar opposite direction. Of course, if you take this particular thread at face value, this guy is a lying sociopath who manipulated his way to Twitter fame using tactics similar to that of TFG, and who deactivated his feed when he got in trouble. So the answer in his case is "no real convictions". This strengthens my anecdotally-based impression that this kind of sudden 180 smells funny. well, sure - the default reading should be to dismiss the possibility of principle being in play when people are monetizing themselves. 💰 🤑 Edited October 20, 2021 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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