POLITICS SCHMALITICS

[Tiger337]

There is no problem with kids working if someone is looking out for them.  The problem is that you just know there are companies, especially the bigger ones, who will just jump at the opportunity to abuse and underpay kids from poor families needing money.  

[gehringer_2]

Right. There is a presumption that children working  for their parents around a home business or family farm have the benefit of their their parents' interest in their welfare protecting them from the kinds of abuses more likely to be seen in corporate or 3rd party employment - and thus that activity does not present the same need for general legal prohibition.

Edited March 6, 2023 by gehringer_2

[chasfh]

Hey, what would you rather have? A kid who’s sucking at the teat of the government “education” system so they can follow in their cuck parents’ libtard footsteps? Or a kid who ignores his loser parents and starts pulling his own weight by getting a job and finally contributing to the economy?

Bring your factories on down, gentlemen! Arkansas is open for business!

[oblong]

to be fair though... kids like this probably built my Iphone.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, oblong said:

to be fair though... kids like this probably built my Iphone.

Kids like this probably beat up your great-grandpa.

[chasfh]

No? Humor too dark?

[oblong]

40 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Kids like this probably beat up your great-grandpa.

One of those kids probably was my great grandpa.

We're talking Coal Miner's Daughter stuff with my lineage.  I had an uncle that lived like that until the 80's.  In the "hollar'.  I hated going there as a kid, no electricity, no plumbing.  Today?  I'd love it.

 

[Tigeraholic1]

2 hours ago, chasfh said:

No? Humor too dark?

Maybe we should start a thread for dark humor like this? 🙄

[chasfh]

53 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Maybe we should start a thread for dark humor like this? 🙄

Maybe we should!

[CMRivdogs]

OH Canada...

In the states it's grounds for getting shot...

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A Quebec judge declared last month, as he acquitted a man who had been accused of threatening and harassing his neighbor, that Canadians have a “God-given” right to give someone the middle finger.

The man who was acquitted, Neall Epstein, had been arrested outside his home in Beaconsfield, a suburb southwest of Montreal, in May 2021 and charged with criminal harassment and uttering death threats. The target, the authorities said, was Michael Naccache, his neighbor on a small, narrow road without sidewalks.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/10/world/canada/middle-finger-god-given-right-canada.html?unlocked_article_code=IPKA91YOPg8tas0oz7YlltMDavzu-sIJQ6i8DKrxKLUvW3lQNvsZ-jIuoS142j9_kvGm2TDxBC0-Q0WENNv3fzeGt-JUuptGnuTGzHV9vXsYbX5OaD899layG3K4yKbdhYY05u2Is91tfPDDJtKZBxyw2-53lWpCCIlF80B1tfCAEJJSpcUj8b8-y5UQkqclSDDtpjyBJV8IkUJR6NR0tV2saj4sc2QXoKjXklTUPphyIzELcFdWnwVOuVfGeFnkzGm1Hcpkc91nzaW9Zhnlj6UITXXDvx5KPMWtOmEuL8QyFULwSPfj1mkRxu8pDrGpRJf1oru83j3Warz5R1YrdIkDiemKi3gccZEG550HNKB4jeM&smid=url-share

[CMRivdogs]

Damn socialist countries

In general, European and African countries, such as San Marino (46 days) and Togo (43 days), offer some of the most generous holiday schemes for their workers. This is in sharp contrast to the U.S., where there is no federal or state minimum allowance for either paid holidays or paid public holidays. But when looking at which country gets the most paid vacation days overall, Iran comes up top, offering a grand total of
53 days, split pretty evenly between paid annual leave and paid public holidays.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/mapped-which-countries-get-the-most-paid-vacation-days/?utm_campaign=mb&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=morning_brew

 

[Jim Cowan]

4 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

Damn socialist countries

In general, European and African countries, such as San Marino (46 days) and Togo (43 days), offer some of the most generous holiday schemes for their workers. This is in sharp contrast to the U.S., where there is no federal or state minimum allowance for either paid holidays or paid public holidays. But when looking at which country gets the most paid vacation days overall, Iran comes up top, offering a grand total of
53 days, split pretty evenly between paid annual leave and paid public holidays.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/mapped-which-countries-get-the-most-paid-vacation-days/?utm_campaign=mb&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=morning_brew

 

I am not sure how they did the math to get Canada up to 19 days.  Perhaps it is the statutory minimum 10 days, or pay in lieu of, plus about 9 more for Christmas, New Year, etc.

I always wanted to get hired in Spain where you can do Sweet FA and they can't fire you.

[CMRivdogs]

https://apnews.com/article/pat-schroeder-dies-congress-colorado-8c543837891437a12ade427bd364b6b9

Remarkable woman and a great career. Truly one of the pioneers

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In 1987, Schroeder tested the waters for the presidency, mounting a fundraising drive after fellow Coloradan Gary Hart pulled out of the race. She announced three months later that she would not run and said her “tears signify compassion, not weakness.” Her heart was not in it, she said, and she thought fundraising was demeaning.

She was the first woman on the House Armed Services Committee but was forced to share a chair with U.S. Rep. Ron Dellums, D-Calif., the first African American, when committee chairman F. Edward Hebert, D-La., organized the panel. Schroeder said Hebert thought the committee was no place for a woman or an African American and they were each worth only half a seat.

Republicans were livid after Schroeder and others filed an ethics complaint over House Speaker Newt Gingrich’s televised college lecture series, charging that free cable time he received amounted to an illegal gift under House rules. Gingrich became the first speaker reprimanded by Congress. Gingrich said later he regretted not taking Schroeder and her colleagues more seriously.

 

[oblong]

Why did the libertarian cross the road?

to cash his disability check. 

[oblong]

 

[CMRivdogs]

They have yet to define CRT and tell us who exactly teaching it. 
 

These new conservatives are great at slogans, horrible on substance. 

[chasfh]

12 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

They have yet to define CRT and tell us who exactly teaching it. 
 

These new conservatives are great at slogans, horrible on substance. 

There’s a reason they don’t define it: the tighter the definition, the fewer things they don’t like that they can use it against. It’s the same thing with “social justice” and “diversity”, and when the economy falters, as all economies eventually do, it will be the same thing with “ESG”.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

I always love Larry Craig type stories where anti-LGBTQ, homophobic male Republicans are caught in the act soliciting sex or thirsting over men. In this case, the anti-LGBTQ, homophobic male Republican is Tennessee Lt. Governor Randy McNally. He was caught making comments on nude and near nude photos of a 20 year old man on Instagram. 

 

[Tigerbomb13]

 

[pfife]

So awesome!   I wish Michigan would do this too.

[Motor City Sonics]

1 hour ago, pfife said:

So awesome!   I wish Michigan would do this too.

One GOP Senator voted against it because he never met any hungry kids. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

One of the most disgusting things in the 21st Century has been how George W. Bush has been able to rehabilitate him image post Iraq War and post Trump Presidency. This week marks the 20th Anniversary since George W. Bush unlawfully and immorally invaded Iraq. He chose to invade a country based off of false pretenses and doctored, if not outright fabricated, intelligence reports.

George W. Bush sold lies to the American people that Saddam Hussein and the Iraqi Military had weapons of mass destruction and were actively engaged in a chemical and biological weapons program. That was a lie, Saddam had no active WMDs or an active program to build more. 

Bush told the American people that Saddam was trying to acquire yellowcake uranium from Niger to build a nuclear weapons program. That was a lie. Saddam was never developing a nuclear weapons program and was not in connection with the government or any entity in Niger trying to acquire yellowcake uranium.

Bush told the American people that Saddam was connected to 9/11 and Al Qaeda in some loose form or fashion. That Saddam was harboring terrorists in Iraq pre and post 9/11. That was a lie. Saddam had no connections to Al Qaeda and was not harboring terrorists from that organization.

Bush told the American people that the Iraqi people would throw white roses at our feet and greet us as the great liberators from tyranny and oppression. That was a lie. In-fact, the exact opposite happened and they say us as invaders in their country, illegally and immorally occupying it. The Iraq War made people Iraqi people and those in Arab states hate the United States even more.

Bush told the American people that we'd be in and out, done in a matter of months. He sold to us a war that would be over as soon as it started and we'd turn Iraq into a free, functioning, democratic government and nation almost overnight. That was a lie. The war in fact drug on for years and the death toll climbed and climbed from American Servicemembers to Iraqi Civilians. Shock and awe turned into occupy and control. The Iraqi people did not look at us as heroes, bringing them democracy.

What we got in Iraq was not what George W. Bush promised us. What we had instead was a horrific tragedy, on one of the largest scales of the 21st century. We had over 4,000 flag draped coffins, with American Service Members whose lives were tragically cut short. Soldiers and Military Members would never come home to their families, lost to the horror of a needless war forever.

We had the loss of over 100,000 Iraqi Civilians and the disruption of a people's entire way of living, thrown into chaos and mass violence. 100,000 Iraqi Civilians who might still be alive today had we not invaded. Children who might have gotten to grow old. Parents who never lost a child or a child who never lost a parent. Entire families, friendships, and villages torn apart in a matter of days, months, and years.

We had the destabilization of an entire region thanks to the upheaval caused by the ousting of Saddam Hussein's regime, with no clear, working plan in place to have a functioning government after his removal from power. A region taken over not by a wave of freedom and democracy as the Bush Administration had promised. Rather, a region held hostage by terror, paralyzed in fear, reduced to rubble, with people left broken, impoverished, homeless, and starving. Entire countries destabilized, allowing the rise of violent extremist and terrorist organizations like ISIS.

I'm posting about Iraq as a solemn reminder of the horrors and barbarism of war. I'm posting it as a reminder so that we learn from our mistakes of the past, think more critically in the future, and not fall for the same drumbeat off to war as we did in Iraq. I'm posting as a reminder that individuals like George W. Bush, Tony Blair, Richard Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, Paul Bremmer, Condoleezza Rice, Paul Wolfowitz, and many others who served as the masterminds behind the war effort be held to account. A reminder that there were those who distorted the intelligence reports and insisted Saddam Hussein and Iraq were a grave threat to America, but were too cowardly themselves pick up a rifle, sit in a tank, or fly a mission and fight the battle. A reminder that President Bush is a war criminal, not an American hero.

To all those family members and friends who lost a service member they loved in the War in Iraq I am so deeply sorry for what happened to them and to you. No amount of I'm sorries can overcome your anguish or bring them back. The tragedy of Iraq provides us all with a great opportunity to learn to think critically about the nature and brutal destruction of war. It lends us the opportunity to be critical of those in power who seek to rush us off to war. God bless all who served and sacrificed their lives and each of their families. God bless all the Iraqi Civilians who were lost to this war.

 

 

Edited March 18, 2023 by Mr.TaterSalad

[gehringer_2]

12 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

One of the most disgusting things in the 21st Century has been how George W. Bush has been able to rehabilitate him image post Iraq War and post Trump Presidency. ...

Agreed Tater. Morally, I think Bush gets more of pass on the grounds of being incompetent and in over his head, but practically, I think that with distance, history will judge correctly that Bush, by virtue of having so many evil but competent people around him like Cheney and Gonzales, did more long term damage to the US body politic that even Trump has so far. Of course that judgment is still contingent on Trump's last chapter not necessarily being written yet.

Edited March 18, 2023 by gehringer_2

[pfife]

 

 

[oblong]

32 minutes ago, pfife said:

 

 

Get ready for the worst possible take on that.