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[gehringer_2]

49 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

The question is why did it take 35 years of Americans ingesting this poison to get it banned? Makeup bad, feed to kids good….

 

and then there is this (from AP):

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“The FDA is taking action that will remove the authorization for the use of FD&C Red No. 3 in food and ingested drugs,” said Jim Jones, the FDA’s deputy commissioner for human foods. “Evidence shows cancer in laboratory male rats exposed to high levels of FD&C Red No.3. Importantly, the way that FD&C Red No. 3 causes cancer in male rats does not occur in humans.”

LOL - Science provides data, what the hell it all means is up to us - 🤷‍♂️

Also the Wiki article on Erythosine says it was already scheduled to be banned by 2027 anyway. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Edited January 15 by gehringer_2

[Tigerbomb13]

 

[CMRivdogs]

From that extremely Liberal think tank. Cato Institute

 https://www.alexnowrasteh.com/p/biden-didnt-cause-the-border-crisis

 

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During President Biden’s term, Border Patrol arrested an unprecedented number of immigrants who crossed illegally into the United States. Many people believe President Biden caused this increase in migration by reducing border enforcement. However, data obtained by the Cato Institute through Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests challenges this narrative. In fact, the border crisis began before Biden took office and ended before he left.

From his administration’s first day, Biden actually increased border enforcement: arrests, detentions, and removals of border crossers all increased. It failed to deter crossers, and they overwhelmed the Border Patrol anyway. The prevailing narrative that blames Biden overlooks the real causes of the crisis: America’s robust labor market and bad immigration policies that incentivized illegal entries. However, Trump, not Biden, mostly started those bad policies. Biden eventually phased out most of them; he increased legal migration, and as the labor market cooled, the problem dissipated.

 

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The main takeaways are:

Illegal immigration had already increased to a 21-year high by December 2020 before Biden came into office.

Biden immediately started increasing expulsions from his first day in office.

Biden tripled interior detention and increased border detention 12-fold.

Biden increased air removal flights by 55 percent over 2020 levels.

Biden negotiated broader expulsion deals with foreign countries than Trump.

Biden got many foreign countries to carry out crackdowns on illegal and legal migration.

Biden removed or expelled 3.3 million border crossers—3 times as many as Trump.

Biden even managed to remove a similar percentage of crossers as Trump’s 4 years.

Despite Biden’s historic crackdown:

Expulsions did not deter migrants, even among demographics universally expelled.

Evasions of Border Patrol increased as rapidly as Border Patrol arrests, implying that releases did not cause the crisis and that many people did not want Border Patrol to catch them but were undeterred by the threat.

Releases occurred not because Biden cut removals but because migration grew faster than the administration could increase them.

As a result, releases only occurred among specific demographic groups and in specific areas where removals were logistically complicated.

Biden could not easily remove groups to Mexico, like families, children, and immigrants from distant countries who were arrested in record numbers.

Read the whole thing

[oblong]

that would have made a great commercial in the campaign

[Tiger337]

On 1/14/2025 at 7:04 PM, Tigermojo said:

Stop the trans athletes while the narcissists and psychopaths are going to run the country.

How long before Trump is declared a deity like his pal Kim Jong Un? I do look forward to him stealing all the oligarchs money.

 

He'll try, but most of them are a lot smarter than him.  He won't be able to do it.  The oligarchs will continue to rule America.  

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, oblong said:

that would have made a great commercial in the campaign

the dems would have been too worried about ticking of part of their base to have done that.

It's an interesting asymmetry. Both parties contain sane people and crazy people. But in the GOP, the public believes the sane people control the party when it's the crazy people that do, while on the Dem side, the people believe the crazy people control the party, but the sane people do.

Edited Thursday at 08:02 PM by gehringer_2

[pfife]

Yeah i think the issue with Dem leadership isnt a lack of sanity, but its that the game has long passed them by.

[oblong]

6 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

the dems would have been too worried about ticking of part of their base to have done that.

It's an interesting asymmetry. Both parties contain sane people and crazy people. But in the GOP, the public believes the sane people control the party when it's the crazy people that do, while on the Dem side, the people believe the crazy people control the party, but the sane people do.

and ultimately the GOP falls in line, for the most part.

 

[Tigeraholic1]

This can’t be true.

 

[pfife]

Youve got a great rep for knowing and posting whats true there communitynotes

[Tigeraholic1]

😂

 

[pfife]

End Wokeness.   SHOT!

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

This can’t be true.

 

I grabbed this from a labor law site regarding the new law:

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If the need for paid sick leave is not foreseeable, an employer may require the employee to give notice of their intention to use available paid sick leave as soon as practicable.

That doesn't sound like you can skip out without calling in. The 3day thing refers to how much sick time an employee can take without providing medical evidence of sickness to the employer  if the employer demands it.

https://www.seyfarth.com/news-insights/if-pain-yes-gain---part-125-michigan-dol-publishes-updated-paid-sick-leave-materials-as-amended-laws-february-2025-effective-date-looms.html

Edited Friday at 02:07 AM by gehringer_2

[Tigeraholic1]

18 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I grabbed this from a labor law site regarding the new law:

That doesn't sound like you can skip out without calling in. The 3day thing refers to how much sick time an employee can take without providing medical evidence of sickness to the employer  if the employer demands it.

https://www.seyfarth.com/news-insights/if-pain-yes-gain---part-125-michigan-dol-publishes-updated-paid-sick-leave-materials-as-amended-laws-february-2025-effective-date-looms.html

Motown notes, thanks G.

[Tigerbomb13]

End wokeness again! 😂

[Tigerbomb13]

1 hour ago, pfife said:

End Wokeness.   SHOT!

Catturd is worth two shots 

[pfife]

5 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

Catturd is worth two shots 

Stay woke bro

[Tigeraholic1]

You don’t say…..

 

SecondStreet.org says if it extrapolates the unknown data, then an estimated 28,077 patients died last year on health care waiting lists covering everything from cancer treatment and heart operations to cataract surgery and MRI scans.

 

“Canadians pay really high taxes and yet our health care system is failing when compared to better-performing universal systems in Europe,” said Harrison Fleming, the legislative and policy director at SecondStreet.org.

[pfife]

Congrats on the deaths magalolic 

[pfife]

Extrapolate the unknown data

[gehringer_2]

13 minutes ago, pfife said:

Extrapolate the unknown data

I saw that too, but TBF that was poor choice of words - they didn't extrapolate unknown data, the applied rates determined from the known data to the places that didn't have data.

It all sounds terrible but it's still meaningless to see those numbers without comparison. I know a *LOT* of Americans who can't get in to see their doctors for months at a time. I'm sure that leads to a lot of late and 'too late' diagnoses as well. So what does the US morbidity/mortality look like on the same comparisons? Do we count the number of American's whose medical debt contributed to their suicides?

It has been true in the past the Canada has been really bad about elective orthopedic surgery like hips and knees, which is were some of the most egregious wait list times are generated. But just because it's not life threatening doesn't mean it's not a bad situation. You see reports of Canadians coming the US for those kinds of treatments.

Edited Friday at 02:08 PM by gehringer_2

[pfife]

Im sure the unknown data was extrapolated very non biasedly

Im a reformed data scientist so i get what they say they did.  I also know there are infinite ways to do it.  

[CMRivdogs]

57 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

You don’t say…..

 

 

SecondStreet.org says if it extrapolates the unknown data, then an estimated 28,077 patients died last year on health care waiting lists covering everything from cancer treatment and heart operations to cataract surgery and MRI scans.

 

“Canadians pay really high taxes and yet our health care system is failing when compared to better-performing universal systems in Europe,” said Harrison Fleming, the legislative and policy director at SecondStreet.org.

It's a bit apples and oranges and the data is from 2008, but...

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More than 26 260 Americans aged 25 to 64 died in 2006 because they lacked health insurance—more than twice as many as were murdered, Families USA said. In the seven years from 2000 to 2006 an estimated 162 700 Americans died because of lack of health insurance.

Families USA said, “The number of uninsured Americans reached 47 million in 2006, and it continues to rise. For many of the uninsured, the lack of health insurance has dire consequences. The uninsured face medical debt, often go without necessary care, and even die prematurely.”

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2323087/

That's not counting those who may have insurance and are stuck on transplant waiting lists or worse get "fired" by their doctors for asking too many questions.

 

[Tigeraholic1]

16 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

It's a bit apples and oranges and the data is from 2008, but...

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2323087/

That's not counting those who may have insurance and are stuck on transplant waiting lists or worse get "fired" by their doctors for asking too many questions.

 

2000-2008? Now your are comparing apples to tangerines. 

[pfife]

Extrapolated tangerines technically