Tiger337 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, buddha said: i think manning and greene will be good! everyone else sucks! /shakesfistatcloud Would Greene be a success if he became Andrew Benintendi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Tiger337 said: Would Greene be a success if he became Andrew Benintendi? Id be disappointed but if you compare him to other top 5 picks and prospects historically that would probably be considered a success. How about if he turns out to be Castellanos when he was with the Tigers with the bat but can play cf competently? Thats like a 110-120 ops+ for a cf. Id have to think that would be a win for the Tigers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, buddha said: i think manning and greene will be good! everyone else sucks! /shakesfistatcloud I'm not sold on Manning just yet. So far he is a low-strikeout, average-walk, high-base hit guy with underwhelming stuff. Maybe that was because he has been hurt the whole time last year and this, and maybe if he gets pain-free it'll change and he'll be an ace. But I'll need to see it first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 minute ago, RandyMarsh said: Id be disappointed but if you compare him to other top 5 picks and prospects historically that would probably be considered a success. How about if he turns out to be Castellanos when he was with the Tigers with the bat but can play cf competently? Thats like a 110-120 ops+ for a cf. Id have to think that would be a win for the Tigers. Yeah, that would be a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Manning just never looked after he hurt his shoulder in 2019. I'm hoping that they finally got that taken care of hand he can revert to his previous self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: Manning just never looked after he hurt his shoulder in 2019. I'm hoping that they finally got that taken care of hand he can revert to his previous self. And that's the unfortunate thing about being a professional athlete: it may not be his fault that he got hurt, and it may not be fair that he can't tap into the apex of his talent as a result, but he's going to bear the burden of it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 16 minutes ago, chasfh said: I'm not sold on Manning just yet. So far he is a low-strikeout, average-walk, high-base hit guy with underwhelming stuff. Maybe that was because he has been hurt the whole time last year and this, and maybe if he gets pain-free it'll change and he'll be an ace. But I'll need to see it first. im not completely sold either, but i think his athletic profile is such that it gives him the highest ceiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Boom roasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 22 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Would Greene be a success if he became Andrew Benintendi? yes. naturally i would like him to be better, but that would be a success in my mind. same with the "castellanos who can play center" scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 hours ago, RandyMarsh said: Boom roasted. The Tigers threaten but fail to score for 753 million years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabretooth Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 On 7/28/2022 at 12:10 PM, gehringer_2 said: I can't decide about Mize. I don't think he has shown much strength at the mental aspect, but that can change. Bigger problem is that there isn't much swing and miss in his fastball, he has to command it. If TJ stabilizes his elbow it could actually help his command, but either way command remains an unknown coming out of the surgery and for Mize it's especially critical. Bottom line, he hasn't justified being picked over Brady Singer. Yeah, Brady Singer is currently looking like an upgrade over Mize even if Mize comes back healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabretooth Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Tiger337 said: Would Greene be a success if he became Andrew Benintendi? If he were more consistent, and had a little more HR power, yes. Benintendi is underwhelming for a 7th overall pick. Hardly a bust, but not what I would call a success, at least not yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabretooth Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 hours ago, buddha said: im not completely sold either, but i think his athletic profile is such that it gives him the highest ceiling. He sure looks the part of a big-league starter.....but boy his numbers and his projections are yawners. ZIPs has him as a sub-2 WAR guy for the next three years, with poor swing/miss stuff and far less than elite command. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 hours ago, buddha said: im not completely sold either, but i think his athletic profile is such that it gives him the highest ceiling. he needs to show up throwing hard - as in 95+. That's where the value in the athletic profile need to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 51 minutes ago, sabretooth said: He sure looks the part of a big-league starter.....but boy his numbers and his projections are yawners. ZIPs has him as a sub-2 WAR guy for the next three years, with poor swing/miss stuff and far less than elite command. “Manning’s got a great body. He's got a plus arm. There's just a lot of things to like about him. And we'll just see how he develops." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) So far the Tigers have 16 pitchers with more than 30 IP, only two with more than 60. Edited July 30, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: So far the Tigers have 16 pitchers with more than 30 IP, only two with more than 60. The future of MLB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Angel De Jesus is wearing jersey number 62? It’s nice to see Al Albuquerque gave him his blessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 In a season of excruciatingly bad Shep stories, the Rowdy Tellez wedding officiant may be the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkelly Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 I have a bad feeling that Mize will only turn out to be a middling starter and Torkelson will be a bust. Ugh. I feel the Avila regime drafts will not produce many above average MLBers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtrain72 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 The center piece, trophy FA signing, who's supposed to be a defensive wizard, signifying that the "rebuild is over", leads the league in errors. This is the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabretooth Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 28 minutes ago, Dtrain72 said: The center piece, trophy FA signing, who's supposed to be a defensive wizard, signifying that the "rebuild is over", leads the league in errors. This is the way. Interestingly, Baez's fielding pct is right at his career norm this year. His advanced defensive metrics are considerably worse than his norm, but his errors are so far typical for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, sabretooth said: Baez's fielding pct is right at his career norm this year. but to be honest, since errors get harder to earn every year, and esp this year, a constant fielding % probably represents decay. OTOH, advanced stats take a long time to find their level. My guess from watching is that there is nothing wrong with Javy's fielding skill, but that his concentration level may be suffering playing on a non-competitive team. As a pro that absolutely should not happen, but Javy is exactly the king of high strung guy where you might expect it. Edited July 31, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Dtrain72 said: The center piece, trophy FA signing, who's supposed to be a defensive wizard, signifying that the "rebuild is over", leads the league in errors. This is the way. Last Day of July. Eric Haase is the best hitter in the lineup. Al's legacy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Last Day of July. Eric Haase is the best hitter in the lineup. Al's legacy! And still no shake-up in the coaching staff. Our owner's patience appears to have morphed into softness, which is not the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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